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	<title>Comments on: Heart Transplants and &#8216;Cellular Memory&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: kitty</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2006/04/heart-transplants-and-cellular-memory.html#comment-16692</link>
		<dc:creator>kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said catherine. Those who mock others for relaying their own experiences after a transplant are just stuck in the stone ages! Their the same type of people who would have sworn the world is still flat! It could be possible that the guy who claimed he felt no change after a heart translplant, possibly inherited the energy signatures of someone who was a skeptical gormless t***! Oh the irony you can&#039;t make this stuff up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said catherine. Those who mock others for relaying their own experiences after a transplant are just stuck in the stone ages! Their the same type of people who would have sworn the world is still flat! It could be possible that the guy who claimed he felt no change after a heart translplant, possibly inherited the energy signatures of someone who was a skeptical gormless t***! Oh the irony you can&#8217;t make this stuff up!</p>
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		<title>By: kitty</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2006/04/heart-transplants-and-cellular-memory.html#comment-16691</link>
		<dc:creator>kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said catherine. Those who mock others for relaying their own experiences after a transplant are just stuck in the stone ages! Their the same type of people who would have sworn the world is still flat! It could be possible that the guy who claimed he felt no change after a heart translplant, possibly inherited the energy signatures of someone who was a skeptical gormless twat! Oh the irony you can&#039;t make this stuff up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said catherine. Those who mock others for relaying their own experiences after a transplant are just stuck in the stone ages! Their the same type of people who would have sworn the world is still flat! It could be possible that the guy who claimed he felt no change after a heart translplant, possibly inherited the energy signatures of someone who was a skeptical gormless twat! Oh the irony you can&#8217;t make this stuff up!</p>
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		<title>By: Rohit</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2006/04/heart-transplants-and-cellular-memory.html#comment-16683</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cells can have memory: http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080123/full/451385a.html

Cellular memory maybe a far fetched hypothesis but to completely disregard and mock it is not scientific at all. Surely its worth investigating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cells can have memory: <a href="http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080123/full/451385a.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080123/full/451385a.html</a></p>
<p>Cellular memory maybe a far fetched hypothesis but to completely disregard and mock it is not scientific at all. Surely its worth investigating.</p>
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		<title>By: le canard noir</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2006/04/heart-transplants-and-cellular-memory.html#comment-14848</link>
		<dc:creator>le canard noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 13:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reference please...

I wonder how that works when surgeons doing transplants have been failing to connect up all those special &#039;memory&#039; neurons.

I suspect my buffoonery is not quite yet proven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reference please&#8230;</p>
<p>I wonder how that works when surgeons doing transplants have been failing to connect up all those special &#8216;memory&#8217; neurons.</p>
<p>I suspect my buffoonery is not quite yet proven.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2006/04/heart-transplants-and-cellular-memory.html#comment-14847</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 13:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you were proven wrong.  Guess you haven&#039;t seen the latest studies that the heart, along with other major organs do have &quot;memory&quot; neurons.  That they are somewhat different than memory cells of the brain, but do in fact control and aid in the ability to control desires.  The earth is round?  No way....  You are a buffoon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you were proven wrong.  Guess you haven&#8217;t seen the latest studies that the heart, along with other major organs do have &#8220;memory&#8221; neurons.  That they are somewhat different than memory cells of the brain, but do in fact control and aid in the ability to control desires.  The earth is round?  No way&#8230;.  You are a buffoon.</p>
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		<title>By: rw23</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2006/04/heart-transplants-and-cellular-memory.html#comment-13101</link>
		<dc:creator>rw23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 18:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This heart transplant cellular memory thing made me wonder if the idea had surfaced in a short story written by Stephen King.  Or should I have been thinking about a Superman comic?

Anyway, Andy, that potential news story fragment is superb!  Thanks for those laughs.  I used to work at an art college.  And Jeanette Winterson lives too damn close to here for my sanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This heart transplant cellular memory thing made me wonder if the idea had surfaced in a short story written by Stephen King.  Or should I have been thinking about a Superman comic?</p>
<p>Anyway, Andy, that potential news story fragment is superb!  Thanks for those laughs.  I used to work at an art college.  And Jeanette Winterson lives too damn close to here for my sanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2006/04/heart-transplants-and-cellular-memory.html#comment-11415</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 15:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There have been discoveries of brain cells and an entire neural system surrounding the heart. Why is it so difficult as a scientist to look at this and say, &quot;Maybe we don&#039;t understand this entirely&quot; ? The opposite of that, of course, is that maybe we do understand.... Being dismissive and condescending is the polar opposite of being scientific, however.

Some people that believe in cellular memory may believe in &quot;cellular souls&quot; but to profess all believe it is beyond reductionist. Its a fallacy.

Also, I&#039;m in agreement with the commenter who said extrapolating from personal experience and applying it to a whole is a dangerous and completely unproductive process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been discoveries of brain cells and an entire neural system surrounding the heart. Why is it so difficult as a scientist to look at this and say, &#8220;Maybe we don&#8217;t understand this entirely&#8221; ? The opposite of that, of course, is that maybe we do understand&#8230;. Being dismissive and condescending is the polar opposite of being scientific, however.</p>
<p>Some people that believe in cellular memory may believe in &#8220;cellular souls&#8221; but to profess all believe it is beyond reductionist. Its a fallacy.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m in agreement with the commenter who said extrapolating from personal experience and applying it to a whole is a dangerous and completely unproductive process.</p>
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		<title>By: zmyr88</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2006/04/heart-transplants-and-cellular-memory.html#comment-6352</link>
		<dc:creator>zmyr88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 03:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kind of goes along with the theory of souls &quot;on the other side&quot; contacting us. unless there is a extreme reason for doing so; revenge, need to give forgiveness, tell something, need to finish something, or violent situation (does not have to be death), then they probably will NOT contact us or any transference to us.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;now I can&#039;t speak much for this, but im sure there aren&#039;t a lot of people who are donors who had one of the above to a extreme degree. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(drunk drivers, druggies, accidental death, suicide, possible murder, *NEED NOT APPLY*)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;point is, there may be very few (1of billions) that would be of the right circumstances for this to occur, both the donor and the recipient need to be &quot;compatible&quot; and accepting to the &quot;transfer&quot; &lt;br/&gt;so even if this IS possible, is rare that it would occur &amp; and be noticed. and if you are against it , it won&#039;t occur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kind of goes along with the theory of souls &#8220;on the other side&#8221; contacting us. unless there is a extreme reason for doing so; revenge, need to give forgiveness, tell something, need to finish something, or violent situation (does not have to be death), then they probably will NOT contact us or any transference to us.</p>
<p>now I can&#8217;t speak much for this, but im sure there aren&#8217;t a lot of people who are donors who had one of the above to a extreme degree. </p>
<p>(drunk drivers, druggies, accidental death, suicide, possible murder, *NEED NOT APPLY*)</p>
<p>point is, there may be very few (1of billions) that would be of the right circumstances for this to occur, both the donor and the recipient need to be &#8220;compatible&#8221; and accepting to the &#8220;transfer&#8221; <br />so even if this IS possible, is rare that it would occur &#038; and be noticed. and if you are against it , it won&#8217;t occur.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine Beckman</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2006/04/heart-transplants-and-cellular-memory.html#comment-5151</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine Beckman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 05:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An observation from my experience:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The last time I checked UNOS stats, generally 75% of heart recipients (not true of other organs) are males, 25% are female. In addition, most of the transplant cardiologists and surgeons are men. I have found that men are uncomfortable with the idea of accepting someone else (heart, spirit or piece of meat-  however you view your donor heart) into their bodies and their being. Simpler put: receptivity is not easy for men. So it does not surprise me that so many male recipients are vocal in their ridicule of what makes them feel vulnerable and uncomfortable by its nature. Moreover, I have found that when I speak with male recipients alone and not surrounded by men in the support groups (which are dominated by men because of the percentages in the heart tx world), I hear very different comments. I consider this buckling to peer pressure similar to a locker room effect.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Extrapolating from your single experience to all heart recipients is meaningless, yet this often happens relative to this topic. I rarely, for example, take immuno-suppressant meds (I am 15 years out from transplant). Should I generalize from my experience and tell you that you should also quit taking yours? And ridicule you for taking them or for not having a similar experience to mine? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Lastly, I heard one female recipient, whom I think was from Arizona, make similar comments to yours, but I have heard many men across three transplant centers succumb to the peer pressure I described above and go into hiding about their feelings and about many of the personal, social, financial and spiritual aspects of living this life. Particularly the level of depression that characterizes life for many recipients.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;All you can conclude is that you have no changes (personality, food preference, etc.) since your transplant that you cannot account for. That fact that you can&#039;t play piano -- before or since -- lends nothing to the overall discussion except to diminish others&#039; experiences, Michael.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It occurs to me that the female recipient I once heard speak with a similar dismissive tone about this topic used the same phrase you have to trivialize others&#039; experiences -- i.e., &quot;attempting to claim their fifteen minutes of fame...&quot; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Try a new thought and open your heart in the process.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Catherine Beckman &lt;br/&gt;Colorado Springs, CO, 10/3/2007</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An observation from my experience:</p>
<p>The last time I checked UNOS stats, generally 75% of heart recipients (not true of other organs) are males, 25% are female. In addition, most of the transplant cardiologists and surgeons are men. I have found that men are uncomfortable with the idea of accepting someone else (heart, spirit or piece of meat-  however you view your donor heart) into their bodies and their being. Simpler put: receptivity is not easy for men. So it does not surprise me that so many male recipients are vocal in their ridicule of what makes them feel vulnerable and uncomfortable by its nature. Moreover, I have found that when I speak with male recipients alone and not surrounded by men in the support groups (which are dominated by men because of the percentages in the heart tx world), I hear very different comments. I consider this buckling to peer pressure similar to a locker room effect.</p>
<p>Extrapolating from your single experience to all heart recipients is meaningless, yet this often happens relative to this topic. I rarely, for example, take immuno-suppressant meds (I am 15 years out from transplant). Should I generalize from my experience and tell you that you should also quit taking yours? And ridicule you for taking them or for not having a similar experience to mine? </p>
<p>Lastly, I heard one female recipient, whom I think was from Arizona, make similar comments to yours, but I have heard many men across three transplant centers succumb to the peer pressure I described above and go into hiding about their feelings and about many of the personal, social, financial and spiritual aspects of living this life. Particularly the level of depression that characterizes life for many recipients.</p>
<p>All you can conclude is that you have no changes (personality, food preference, etc.) since your transplant that you cannot account for. That fact that you can&#8217;t play piano &#8212; before or since &#8212; lends nothing to the overall discussion except to diminish others&#8217; experiences, Michael.  </p>
<p>It occurs to me that the female recipient I once heard speak with a similar dismissive tone about this topic used the same phrase you have to trivialize others&#8217; experiences &#8212; i.e., &#8220;attempting to claim their fifteen minutes of fame&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>Try a new thought and open your heart in the process.</p>
<p>Catherine Beckman <br />Colorado Springs, CO, 10/3/2007</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heart transplant cellular memory is an oxymoron.No such process takes place during heart transplant. I was a cardiac transplant recipient six years ago and I cannot play the piano now nor could I play before the transplant.These patients claiming cellular memory are attempting to claim their fifteen minutes of fame by attributing their delusions to an organ transplant.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;michael thomas&lt;br/&gt;http//my-heart-transplant-blog.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heart transplant cellular memory is an oxymoron.No such process takes place during heart transplant. I was a cardiac transplant recipient six years ago and I cannot play the piano now nor could I play before the transplant.These patients claiming cellular memory are attempting to claim their fifteen minutes of fame by attributing their delusions to an organ transplant.</p>
<p>michael thomas<br />http//my-heart-transplant-blog.blogspot.com</p>
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