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		<title>By: Le Canard Noir</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2006/07/trademarked-science-trade-offs.html#comment-16852</link>
		<dc:creator>Le Canard Noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sister kaite - it is not up to me to produce evidence to show someones claims are false - it is up to those who make the claims to produce the evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sister kaite &#8211; it is not up to me to produce evidence to show someones claims are false &#8211; it is up to those who make the claims to produce the evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: sister kaite</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2006/07/trademarked-science-trade-offs.html#comment-16851</link>
		<dc:creator>sister kaite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am educated by universities in molecular biology and physiology and you are an idiot by saying what you are saying.  Unless you can present medical journal articles that show that this does not work then you are the one that is not telling the truth.

 I have read medical journal articles and botanical articles about salvestrol and resveratrols and there have been animal and human trials that worked and saved lives that were going to be lost. 

Are you just one of those people who does not like to spread the truth for your own profit?  Why would you make such ignorant remarks about something that works to save lives? You could be keeping people from living.  What does that make you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am educated by universities in molecular biology and physiology and you are an idiot by saying what you are saying.  Unless you can present medical journal articles that show that this does not work then you are the one that is not telling the truth.</p>
<p> I have read medical journal articles and botanical articles about salvestrol and resveratrols and there have been animal and human trials that worked and saved lives that were going to be lost. </p>
<p>Are you just one of those people who does not like to spread the truth for your own profit?  Why would you make such ignorant remarks about something that works to save lives? You could be keeping people from living.  What does that make you?</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2006/07/trademarked-science-trade-offs.html#comment-16778</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 16:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcy,

Many people get small non-/pre-cancerous growths that are then just eliminated by the body by itself. Nothing to do with the naturopathy (or any other quack treatment) they happened to be having at the time. Your case seems like a typical example.

From Wikipedia:

1) Most Cervical intraepithelial neoplasia (CIN) spontaneously regress. Left untreated, about 70% of CIN-1 will regress within two years... About 50% of CIN 2 will regress within 2 years without treatment.

2) Progression to cancer typically takes 15 (3 to 40) years. Also, evidence suggests that cancer can occur without first detectably progressing through these stages and that a high grade intraepithelial neoplasia can occur without first existing as a lower grade.

Summary: In most cases the CIN just goes away within 2 years. It can easily return and becomes cancerous.

Tell me how you KNOW that your symptoms went away because of the naturopathy and not by itself? However, in many cases the abnormal growth returns and becomes full-blown cancer. That&#039;s why some people are &quot;discouraging people from looking into treatments like I had&quot;: It might just save your life.

Marcy, remember that naturopaths are NOT properly trained medics. Please don&#039;t be another statistic that died of a treatable cancer because they wasted time with a quack. Have a properly trained medical professional keep a close look on your condition keep your fingers crossed.

I hope you stay healthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcy,</p>
<p>Many people get small non-/pre-cancerous growths that are then just eliminated by the body by itself. Nothing to do with the naturopathy (or any other quack treatment) they happened to be having at the time. Your case seems like a typical example.</p>
<p>From Wikipedia:</p>
<p>1) Most Cervical intraepithelial neoplasia (CIN) spontaneously regress. Left untreated, about 70% of CIN-1 will regress within two years&#8230; About 50% of CIN 2 will regress within 2 years without treatment.</p>
<p>2) Progression to cancer typically takes 15 (3 to 40) years. Also, evidence suggests that cancer can occur without first detectably progressing through these stages and that a high grade intraepithelial neoplasia can occur without first existing as a lower grade.</p>
<p>Summary: In most cases the CIN just goes away within 2 years. It can easily return and becomes cancerous.</p>
<p>Tell me how you KNOW that your symptoms went away because of the naturopathy and not by itself? However, in many cases the abnormal growth returns and becomes full-blown cancer. That&#8217;s why some people are &#8220;discouraging people from looking into treatments like I had&#8221;: It might just save your life.</p>
<p>Marcy, remember that naturopaths are NOT properly trained medics. Please don&#8217;t be another statistic that died of a treatable cancer because they wasted time with a quack. Have a properly trained medical professional keep a close look on your condition keep your fingers crossed.</p>
<p>I hope you stay healthy.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcy</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2006/07/trademarked-science-trade-offs.html#comment-16771</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naturopathic medicine is only for the gullible?  That&#039;s interesting because my naturopathic doctor just cured me of cervical dysplasia (a precancerous condition of the cervix).  Regular doctors only treat this by cutting out a piece of the cervix.  Naturopathic doctors treat it naturally with a very involved process.  It works.

Now I am free of the condition as well as HPV, which causes dysplasia.  See, conventional treatments don&#039;t attack the cause, only the symptom.  Women who have a piece of their cervix removed by regular docs still have HPV so the bad cells eventually return.
  
Yeah, so I guess I&#039;m gullible because I chose to preserve my cervix and go the natural route.  Silly me.  

People like you who talk trash about natural healers and think only &quot;regular&quot; doctors are worth anything infuriate me because you&#039;re discouraging people from looking into treatments like I had.  I know it&#039;s just because you&#039;re uneducated and ignorant and it&#039;s not really your fault, but it still makes me mad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naturopathic medicine is only for the gullible?  That&#8217;s interesting because my naturopathic doctor just cured me of cervical dysplasia (a precancerous condition of the cervix).  Regular doctors only treat this by cutting out a piece of the cervix.  Naturopathic doctors treat it naturally with a very involved process.  It works.</p>
<p>Now I am free of the condition as well as HPV, which causes dysplasia.  See, conventional treatments don&#8217;t attack the cause, only the symptom.  Women who have a piece of their cervix removed by regular docs still have HPV so the bad cells eventually return.</p>
<p>Yeah, so I guess I&#8217;m gullible because I chose to preserve my cervix and go the natural route.  Silly me.  </p>
<p>People like you who talk trash about natural healers and think only &#8220;regular&#8221; doctors are worth anything infuriate me because you&#8217;re discouraging people from looking into treatments like I had.  I know it&#8217;s just because you&#8217;re uneducated and ignorant and it&#8217;s not really your fault, but it still makes me mad.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Sexton</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2006/07/trademarked-science-trade-offs.html#comment-12778</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Sexton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 00:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salvesterols are converted by the P450-1 Cytochrome enzyme into picotannins which work via the CYPB1P1 metabolic pathway and have shown in-vivo and in-vitro tumor killing properties and unlike traditional chemotherapy to not harm regular cells. This is a big deal especially the latter property. Regular anti-cancer drugs knock out the mitochondria and just kill and damage everything which is why you feel like you&#039;re dying on chemo. We need a selective anti-tumor agent.

I have met people whose end stage cancer who had been through chemo and radation - which didn&#039;t work and were told to &quot;get their affairs in order&quot; who weeks later began taking salvesterols and cutting out sugar (tumor cells feed on sugar directly for energy, regular cells use ATP) and went into complete remission.

The salvestrols are a plants response to fungal infections; since we&#039;ve been using anti fungal sprays since WWII the plants we eat make so little of this now it&#039;s one possible explanation as to why cancer rates are so high. Organic fruit still contain regular amounts of salvestrols, but keep in mind as well that salvestrols are bitter and we&#039;ve bred the bitterness out of fruit over the years which of course doesn&#039;t help either.

As Li points out in his recent TED talk, cancers form all the time in our bodies and are normally knocked out but our defenses. But lowered levels of salvestrols means this doesn&#039;t happen as often as the body lacks the nutrients required to do this.

Great site, keep up the good work, but this one shows great promise and probably doesn&#039;t deserve to be put in the same junk bucket as crap like homeopathy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salvesterols are converted by the P450-1 Cytochrome enzyme into picotannins which work via the CYPB1P1 metabolic pathway and have shown in-vivo and in-vitro tumor killing properties and unlike traditional chemotherapy to not harm regular cells. This is a big deal especially the latter property. Regular anti-cancer drugs knock out the mitochondria and just kill and damage everything which is why you feel like you&#8217;re dying on chemo. We need a selective anti-tumor agent.</p>
<p>I have met people whose end stage cancer who had been through chemo and radation &#8211; which didn&#8217;t work and were told to &#8220;get their affairs in order&#8221; who weeks later began taking salvesterols and cutting out sugar (tumor cells feed on sugar directly for energy, regular cells use ATP) and went into complete remission.</p>
<p>The salvestrols are a plants response to fungal infections; since we&#8217;ve been using anti fungal sprays since WWII the plants we eat make so little of this now it&#8217;s one possible explanation as to why cancer rates are so high. Organic fruit still contain regular amounts of salvestrols, but keep in mind as well that salvestrols are bitter and we&#8217;ve bred the bitterness out of fruit over the years which of course doesn&#8217;t help either.</p>
<p>As Li points out in his recent TED talk, cancers form all the time in our bodies and are normally knocked out but our defenses. But lowered levels of salvestrols means this doesn&#8217;t happen as often as the body lacks the nutrients required to do this.</p>
<p>Great site, keep up the good work, but this one shows great promise and probably doesn&#8217;t deserve to be put in the same junk bucket as crap like homeopathy.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Doyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 14:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I attended a lecture by professor Burke here on the Isle of Wight last year. Though neither of us suffer from the disease (as far as we know) we went purely out of curiousity and I must say we found the man to be totally genuine and enthusiastic about their (&amp; Potter&#039;s) research. Using slides, he graphically explained how salvestrols destroy new cancer cells without harming normal ones. He did this in front of several sceptical members of the medical profession that were in the audience and answered their questions confidently and to their satisfaction.
I thought that on the way out there would be tables laden with boxes of salvestrols at jacked up prices, but no, there were none to be seen so I asked the girl behind the desk where we could get some and she said she didn&#039;t know. One interesting incident occured during the lecture. A man stood up and said that his friend had advanced throat cancer and the surgeons wanted to operate but he refused and ate apricot kernels instead, he was examined some time later and they found that the cancer had completely disappeared. Does that mean that apricot kernels are high in salvestrols also ?               Ted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I attended a lecture by professor Burke here on the Isle of Wight last year. Though neither of us suffer from the disease (as far as we know) we went purely out of curiousity and I must say we found the man to be totally genuine and enthusiastic about their (&amp; Potter&#8217;s) research. Using slides, he graphically explained how salvestrols destroy new cancer cells without harming normal ones. He did this in front of several sceptical members of the medical profession that were in the audience and answered their questions confidently and to their satisfaction.<br />
I thought that on the way out there would be tables laden with boxes of salvestrols at jacked up prices, but no, there were none to be seen so I asked the girl behind the desk where we could get some and she said she didn&#8217;t know. One interesting incident occured during the lecture. A man stood up and said that his friend had advanced throat cancer and the surgeons wanted to operate but he refused and ate apricot kernels instead, he was examined some time later and they found that the cancer had completely disappeared. Does that mean that apricot kernels are high in salvestrols also ?               Ted.</p>
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		<title>By: ann baughan</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2006/07/trademarked-science-trade-offs.html#comment-9898</link>
		<dc:creator>ann baughan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerry Potter is absolutely committed to finding something to stop people dying - he has dedicated his life to it, even to the point of becoming ill.  The article gives the background - someone will make a film of his story, for sure.

Trials of one of the drugs he has come up with &quot;have shown that it can shrink tumours in 80% of the most aggressive forms of prostate cancers.  The second biggest killer of men in Britain may become a manageable disease&quot; and &quot;A study of 1,200 patients worldwide is now in progress and the drug could be licensed and available in the UK as early as next year&quot;.

Doubters, please go and find some real quacks and leave this dedicated team alone - their work will probably save the life of someone you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerry Potter is absolutely committed to finding something to stop people dying &#8211; he has dedicated his life to it, even to the point of becoming ill.  The article gives the background &#8211; someone will make a film of his story, for sure.</p>
<p>Trials of one of the drugs he has come up with &#8220;have shown that it can shrink tumours in 80% of the most aggressive forms of prostate cancers.  The second biggest killer of men in Britain may become a manageable disease&#8221; and &#8220;A study of 1,200 patients worldwide is now in progress and the drug could be licensed and available in the UK as early as next year&#8221;.</p>
<p>Doubters, please go and find some real quacks and leave this dedicated team alone &#8211; their work will probably save the life of someone you know.</p>
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		<title>By: geraldine wall</title>
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		<dc:creator>geraldine wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Follow this link

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/news/Private-hell-Leicester-scientist-searching-cancer-wonder-drug/article-1832255-detail/article.html

Is the jury still out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Follow this link</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/news/Private-hell-Leicester-scientist-searching-cancer-wonder-drug/article-1832255-detail/article.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/news/Private-hell-Leicester-scientist-searching-cancer-wonder-drug/article-1832255-detail/article.html</a></p>
<p>Is the jury still out?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Cleary&lt;br /&gt;Sec ResQ Club&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The lesson learnt from the use of salvestrol (Platinum) 2000 salvestrol points is that when the CT scans reveal a tumour clearance the person must continue eating the daily capsule.  Cancer comes roaring back along another pathway and unwanted mitosis is rapid.&lt;br /&gt;We have lost six members who were please that their tumour has gone but that was the worst part ... they stopped eating the Salvestrol.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is early days on this anecdotal route to show whether salvestrol is truly effective.  The science from various universities and institutes show that success is  strong possibility&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fact that GSK  ($720M) and Pfizer testing analogues, have&lt;br /&gt; dipped their toes is a sign for the future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here&#039;s hoping for other benefits which are becoming apparent such a dementia deceleration et al&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Cleary<br />Sec ResQ Club</p>
<p>The lesson learnt from the use of salvestrol (Platinum) 2000 salvestrol points is that when the CT scans reveal a tumour clearance the person must continue eating the daily capsule.  Cancer comes roaring back along another pathway and unwanted mitosis is rapid.<br />We have lost six members who were please that their tumour has gone but that was the worst part &#8230; they stopped eating the Salvestrol.</p>
<p>It is early days on this anecdotal route to show whether salvestrol is truly effective.  The science from various universities and institutes show that success is  strong possibility</p>
<p>The fact that GSK  ($720M) and Pfizer testing analogues, have<br /> dipped their toes is a sign for the future.</p>
<p>Here&#39;s hoping for other benefits which are becoming apparent such a dementia deceleration et al</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know prof Potter quite well....  oh, yes, so that means my comments can be dismissed.  And no - he&#039;s not a money grubber by any means.  He is quite a zealot for his product though.  I recommended them to a friend (or did I?) who had lung cancer.  The tumour disappeared (obviously I&#039;m a nutter too).  He&#039;s just had a lung operation, sad to report.  Once the tumour had &quot;disappeared&quot; he stopped taking them and it came back.  Against our advice.  Either that or I&#039;m lying.  Not sure why I would!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And stop dissing Leicester.  He works in Leicester and he set up his company in Leicester (Oh - hoh.  Something very suspicious in that.  Conspiracy!)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Have a look at this if you&#039;re interested.  Once again, it could all be rubbish....  but hey - don&#039;t sue me - I reckon it&#039;s true.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.salvestrolen.nl/ResearchItem.asp?IDResearch=43</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know prof Potter quite well&#8230;.  oh, yes, so that means my comments can be dismissed.  And no &#8211; he&#8217;s not a money grubber by any means.  He is quite a zealot for his product though.  I recommended them to a friend (or did I?) who had lung cancer.  The tumour disappeared (obviously I&#8217;m a nutter too).  He&#8217;s just had a lung operation, sad to report.  Once the tumour had &#8220;disappeared&#8221; he stopped taking them and it came back.  Against our advice.  Either that or I&#8217;m lying.  Not sure why I would!</p>
<p>And stop dissing Leicester.  He works in Leicester and he set up his company in Leicester (Oh &#8211; hoh.  Something very suspicious in that.  Conspiracy!)</p>
<p>Have a look at this if you&#8217;re interested.  Once again, it could all be rubbish&#8230;.  but hey &#8211; don&#8217;t sue me &#8211; I reckon it&#8217;s true.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.salvestrolen.nl/ResearchItem.asp?IDResearch=43" rel="nofollow">http://www.salvestrolen.nl/ResearchItem.asp?IDResearch=43</a></p>
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