Comments on: This May Be Fair Trading – Then Again, It May Not. http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it.html Experiments and Thoughts on Quackery, Health Beliefs and Pseudoscience Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:47:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Bella http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it.html#comment-17082 Bella Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:42:30 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it-may-not.html#comment-17082 I know quite a few people who have been helped by magnet therapy. I wonder if the author of this column realises that Big Pharma is all but wiping out any attemps to bring in new medicines/treatments. Its costs 25 million dollars (yes 25 million dollars!) for the FDA to license any new drug, so what chance of anything new and effective being given a chance. Here's an example for you. Lifes2Good internet distributor/manufacturer used to market a wonderful patch called Painease, which worked with some kind of microcurrent (not magnets). It was the only apparently harmless treatment that helped my friend with her severe ankylosing spondulitis, a painful spinal condition. She's tried all kinds of other patches and is now reliant on strong painkillers when she just can't bear the pain. Lifes2Good have had to abandon the production of Painease as they could not get the right quality for a viable price. They have been inundated with disappointed complaints. They will never get anywhere with Big Pharma and the greedy FDA. So sad. I know quite a few people who have been helped by magnet therapy. I wonder if the author of this column realises that Big Pharma is all but wiping out any attemps to bring in new medicines/treatments. Its costs 25 million dollars (yes 25 million dollars!) for the FDA to license any new drug, so what chance of anything new and effective being given a chance. Here’s an example for you. Lifes2Good internet distributor/manufacturer used to market a wonderful patch called Painease, which worked with some kind of microcurrent (not magnets). It was the only apparently harmless treatment that helped my friend with her severe ankylosing spondulitis, a painful spinal condition. She’s tried all kinds of other patches and is now reliant on strong painkillers when she just can’t bear the pain. Lifes2Good have had to abandon the production of Painease as they could not get the right quality for a viable price. They have been inundated with disappointed complaints. They will never get anywhere with Big Pharma and the greedy FDA. So sad.

]]> By: Bella http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it.html#comment-17081 Bella Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:40:44 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it-may-not.html#comment-17081 I know a few people who have been helped by magnet therapy. I wonder if the author of this column realises that Big Pharma is all but wiping out any attemps to bring in new medicines/treatments. Its costs 25 million dollars (yes 25 million dollars!) for the FDA to license any new drug, so what chance of anything new and effective being given a chance. Here's an example for you. Lifes2Good internet distributor/manufacturer used to market a wonderful patch called Painease, which worked with some kind of microcurrent (not magnets). It was the only apparently harmless treatment that helped my friend with her severe ankylosing spondulitis, a painful spinal condition. She's tried all kinds of other patches and is now reliant on strong painkillers when she just can't bear the pain. Lifes2Good have had to abandon the production of Painease as they could not get the right quality for a viable price. They have been inundated with disappointed complaints. They will never get anywhere with Big Pharma and the greedy FDA. So sad. I know a few people who have been helped by magnet therapy. I wonder if the author of this column realises that Big Pharma is all but wiping out any attemps to bring in new medicines/treatments. Its costs 25 million dollars (yes 25 million dollars!) for the FDA to license any new drug, so what chance of anything new and effective being given a chance. Here’s an example for you. Lifes2Good internet distributor/manufacturer used to market a wonderful patch called Painease, which worked with some kind of microcurrent (not magnets). It was the only apparently harmless treatment that helped my friend with her severe ankylosing spondulitis, a painful spinal condition. She’s tried all kinds of other patches and is now reliant on strong painkillers when she just can’t bear the pain. Lifes2Good have had to abandon the production of Painease as they could not get the right quality for a viable price. They have been inundated with disappointed complaints. They will never get anywhere with Big Pharma and the greedy FDA. So sad.

]]> By: Nimrod http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it.html#comment-15020 Nimrod Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:32:04 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it-may-not.html#comment-15020 With the greatest respect to 'Sally' I'm not quite clear where the ignorance comes in? My knee was an arthritic condition (professionally diagnosed). Before purchase I phoned MagnoP to describe the symptoms and what the knee would and would not do and to ask if the magnetic wraps might be expected to assist? The reply was 'it is just what the knee wrap was designed for'. I have already reported that the result was a complete failure. Like most other things in this world it is not straightforward black or white. There seems little doubt that the magnawraps do help some people. There is also no doubt that they do nothing for others. I feel that the 96% claimed success rate is, for whatever reason, significantly inaccurate. My GP's comment was that 'medicine isn't like that, if it were our waiting rooms would be empty! Finally I think the company's advertising/claims is/are exaggerated as apparently established (twice?) by the appropriate authority through the courts some years back. (See earlier this website.) With the greatest respect to ‘Sally’ I’m not quite clear where the ignorance comes in? My knee was an arthritic condition (professionally diagnosed). Before purchase I phoned MagnoP to describe the symptoms and what the knee would and would not do and to ask if the magnetic wraps might be expected to assist? The reply was ‘it is just what the knee wrap was designed for’. I have already reported that the result was a complete failure.
Like most other things in this world it is not straightforward black or white. There seems little doubt that the magnawraps do help some people. There is also no doubt that they do nothing for others. I feel that the 96% claimed success rate is, for whatever reason, significantly inaccurate. My GP’s comment was that ‘medicine isn’t like that, if it were our waiting rooms would be empty! Finally I think the company’s advertising/claims is/are exaggerated as apparently established (twice?) by the appropriate authority through the courts some years back. (See earlier this website.)

]]> By: le canard noir http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it.html#comment-14999 le canard noir Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:46:15 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it-may-not.html#comment-14999 Hi Sally The only question I can only ask is how do you know? Hi Sally

The only question I can only ask is how do you know?

]]> By: Sally http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it.html#comment-14998 Sally Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:44:03 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it-may-not.html#comment-14998 You sceptics demonstrate only your ignorance. Pains caused by misuse (bad posture, high heels and other far more subtle, detailed and ubiquitous modern day forms of misuse) almost certainly will not be relieved by magnets, but issues such as arthritis and rheumatism, menopause and poor circulation almost certainly will. You sceptics demonstrate only your ignorance. Pains caused by misuse (bad posture, high heels and other far more subtle, detailed and ubiquitous modern day forms of misuse) almost certainly will not be relieved by magnets, but issues such as arthritis and rheumatism, menopause and poor circulation almost certainly will.

]]> By: Nimrod http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it.html#comment-14881 Nimrod Sat, 21 May 2011 11:25:59 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it-may-not.html#comment-14881 Last post referred to a knee wrap = sorry for the ommission. Last post referred to a knee wrap = sorry for the ommission.

]]> By: Nimrod http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it.html#comment-14880 Nimrod Sat, 21 May 2011 11:23:39 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it-may-not.html#comment-14880 After over 2000 hours continuous wear (excluding morning shower time) the result ..... absolutely nothing. No discernible change/improvement whatsoever. At least, faced with this irrefutable failure, Magno-pulse had the grace to say that 'I was one of the unlucky ones' At no extra charge I am adding this to Dr Eccles failure list thereby increasing it by 7%. (His list, 350 @ 96% claimed success = 4% fail = 14 plus 1 = 7% increase) I know of at least one other similar failure should the need arise. After over 2000 hours continuous wear (excluding morning shower time) the result ….. absolutely nothing. No discernible change/improvement whatsoever. At least, faced with this irrefutable failure, Magno-pulse had the grace to say that ‘I was one of the unlucky ones’
At no extra charge I am adding this to Dr Eccles failure list thereby increasing it by 7%. (His list, 350 @ 96% claimed success = 4% fail = 14 plus 1 = 7% increase)
I know of at least one other similar failure should the need arise.

]]> By: Le Canard Noir http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it.html#comment-12875 Le Canard Noir Sat, 30 Oct 2010 22:38:12 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it-may-not.html#comment-12875 A critic might suggest that your dependence was psychosomatic. A critic might suggest that your dependence was psychosomatic.

]]> By: Karin http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it.html#comment-12874 Karin Sat, 30 Oct 2010 21:59:20 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it-may-not.html#comment-12874 I have gone to bed wearing magnopulse knee wraps (both legs) for many years now. They are absolutely brilliant. I know you wrote this two or three years ago but I hope you might see my reply. If I forget to put the magnet wraps on, I don't sleep anywhere near as soundly or as long (this has happened too many times for it to be a coincidence). I thought I would be in a wheelchair by now, so bad was the pain in my knees and ankles 5 or 6 years ago. I am still a little achey when I get tired but I hit the ground running every morning. This used not to be the case - in fact I could barely move my feet or my knees until I had walked around for a while. I actually feel quite panicky if I forget to take them away with me. Blow the so-called scientific evidence - the proof of the pudding is what counts. They work for me and this is NOT a figment of my imagination, wishful thinking or anything else. They work. Full stop. I have gone to bed wearing magnopulse knee wraps (both legs) for many years now. They are absolutely brilliant. I know you wrote this two or three years ago but I hope you might see my reply. If I forget to put the magnet wraps on, I don’t sleep anywhere near as soundly or as long (this has happened too many times for it to be a coincidence). I thought I would be in a wheelchair by now, so bad was the pain in my knees and ankles 5 or 6 years ago. I am still a little achey when I get tired but I hit the ground running every morning. This used not to be the case – in fact I could barely move my feet or my knees until I had walked around for a while. I actually feel quite panicky if I forget to take them away with me. Blow the so-called scientific evidence – the proof of the pudding is what counts. They work for me and this is NOT a figment of my imagination, wishful thinking or anything else. They work. Full stop.

]]> By: Andy Lewis http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it.html#comment-10023 Andy Lewis Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:31:52 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/01/this-may-be-fair-trading-then-again-it-may-not.html#comment-10023 You had better get munching. You had better get munching.

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