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		<title>By: Le Canard Noir</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/08/breakspear-hospital-and-electromagnetic.html#comment-16865</link>
		<dc:creator>Le Canard Noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure you should be seeking specific medical advice here or elsewhere online. 

The whole message of my blog is that when you are dissatisfied with mainstream medicine, there are countless people out there willing to sell you their magic beans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure you should be seeking specific medical advice here or elsewhere online. </p>
<p>The whole message of my blog is that when you are dissatisfied with mainstream medicine, there are countless people out there willing to sell you their magic beans.</p>
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		<title>By: peter dinan</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/08/breakspear-hospital-and-electromagnetic.html#comment-16863</link>
		<dc:creator>peter dinan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grateful for this information as I was about to spend a lot on Breakspear treatment for M.E.The reply from &quot;anonymous Oct 21st&quot; above is helpful. Can anyone tell me how to go about getting the enzyme potentiated desensitization injections he mentions ? I have IBS associated with M.E. (18 years)   Recent diagnosis of HPilori - is it worth the hideous effects of antibiotics to try and get rid of this? Prescibed Omniprazole helps dampen it down, but thats all.Thanks and good luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grateful for this information as I was about to spend a lot on Breakspear treatment for M.E.The reply from &#8220;anonymous Oct 21st&#8221; above is helpful. Can anyone tell me how to go about getting the enzyme potentiated desensitization injections he mentions ? I have IBS associated with M.E. (18 years)   Recent diagnosis of HPilori &#8211; is it worth the hideous effects of antibiotics to try and get rid of this? Prescibed Omniprazole helps dampen it down, but thats all.Thanks and good luck</p>
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		<title>By: What&#8217;s Wrong With The Breakspear Hospital? &#171; Stuff And Nonsense</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/08/breakspear-hospital-and-electromagnetic.html#comment-16123</link>
		<dc:creator>What&#8217;s Wrong With The Breakspear Hospital? &#171; Stuff And Nonsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to Charlotte, for alerting me to the Breakspear&#8217;s activities, and to Le Canard Noir, for writing about the Breakspear back in 2007 (helpfully summarising some of the dubious treatments offered by them [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to Charlotte, for alerting me to the Breakspear&#8217;s activities, and to Le Canard Noir, for writing about the Breakspear back in 2007 (helpfully summarising some of the dubious treatments offered by them [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Foresight Preconception&#8211;Beware of Claims &#124; The Quackometer</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/08/breakspear-hospital-and-electromagnetic.html#comment-15295</link>
		<dc:creator>Foresight Preconception&#8211;Beware of Claims &#124; The Quackometer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jean Munro is also on the list. I have written about her private clinic and bizarre treatments on several occasions. Munro was the subject of an investigation by ‘World in Action’ in 1990 for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jean Munro is also on the list. I have written about her private clinic and bizarre treatments on several occasions. Munro was the subject of an investigation by ‘World in Action’ in 1990 for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/08/breakspear-hospital-and-electromagnetic.html#comment-14572</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 18:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Main stream medicine is also using magnetic treatment for depression and sequelae  caused by stroke. It is called transcranial magnetic  therapy. They shoot very strong magnetic fields into the skull. The body is an elctro-magnetic biological machine. Every chemical raction is also an electromagnetic one.

So it is quackery if modulation of  body magnetic fields is used by the Breakspear and it &quot;science&quot; if the same method is used by the NHS or private  hospitals belonging to American based Insurance corporations.
This is typical of the established medical mafia.  Perhaps it is worth reminding to the quockingbuster author of this pamphlet that the established medical mafia has its hand full of tremoundous mistakes  and intentional crimes &quot; often perpetrated  with full knowledge by the medical profession and for mere monetary consideration&quot;.

For example: the Helycobacter pylori asociation with  stomach ulcer was rediscovered in 1971 by an Australian doctor , and reaseracher. He then checked  the literature and found that the association between the bug and the stomach ulcer was made  ealrier in 1871 by 2 German researchers.

Prior to receive the Nobel Prize the Austrialan researcher was   certified  mentally ill  by his very own medical colleagues...

Best wishes
Joseph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Main stream medicine is also using magnetic treatment for depression and sequelae  caused by stroke. It is called transcranial magnetic  therapy. They shoot very strong magnetic fields into the skull. The body is an elctro-magnetic biological machine. Every chemical raction is also an electromagnetic one.</p>
<p>So it is quackery if modulation of  body magnetic fields is used by the Breakspear and it &#8220;science&#8221; if the same method is used by the NHS or private  hospitals belonging to American based Insurance corporations.<br />
This is typical of the established medical mafia.  Perhaps it is worth reminding to the quockingbuster author of this pamphlet that the established medical mafia has its hand full of tremoundous mistakes  and intentional crimes &#8221; often perpetrated  with full knowledge by the medical profession and for mere monetary consideration&#8221;.</p>
<p>For example: the Helycobacter pylori asociation with  stomach ulcer was rediscovered in 1971 by an Australian doctor , and reaseracher. He then checked  the literature and found that the association between the bug and the stomach ulcer was made  ealrier in 1871 by 2 German researchers.</p>
<p>Prior to receive the Nobel Prize the Austrialan researcher was   certified  mentally ill  by his very own medical colleagues&#8230;</p>
<p>Best wishes<br />
Joseph</p>
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		<title>By: The GP Commissioning Consortium for Integrated Medicine &#124; The Quackometer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The GP Commissioning Consortium for Integrated Medicine &#124; The Quackometer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] demand for them. If you believe you have an illness that your GP is failing to help, such as electrosensitivity, or you believe you have an allergy that does not show up in regular tests, such clinics can [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] demand for them. If you believe you have an illness that your GP is failing to help, such as electrosensitivity, or you believe you have an allergy that does not show up in regular tests, such clinics can [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor&#8217;s Data Bogus Tests &#124; The Quackometer</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/08/breakspear-hospital-and-electromagnetic.html#comment-12020</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor&#8217;s Data Bogus Tests &#124; The Quackometer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 22:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Munro is not unknown to the Quackometer. We have seen how the private hospital treats people with ‘electrosensitivity’ (a condition where people falsely attribute symptoms such as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Munro is not unknown to the Quackometer. We have seen how the private hospital treats people with ‘electrosensitivity’ (a condition where people falsely attribute symptoms such as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/08/breakspear-hospital-and-electromagnetic.html#comment-6887</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve tried Alcat, Nutreval and other types of allergy testing via blood samples several times and in my experience, the foods you&#039;ve been eating recently come up but results aren&#039;t consistent. Don&#039;t eat your favourite chilli for 2 weeks and kidney beans go from reactive to neutral. I suppose the real moral is eat a varied diet and you&#039;ll have less reactivity and better health.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As you talk about Breakspear here I want to say I was a patient there for several years and I have to say that my experience is mixed.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I spent thousands on the allergy vaccines but they had absolutely no effect on me (although they did seem to be doing other people there some good, or perhaps that&#039;s what they thought seeing me there)... The main reason for the cost was days and days of testing, the treatment itself was not that expensive but after 6 months I had to give up (because you need regular re-testing hence more expense).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve recently found enzyme-potentiated desensitization to be much more beneficial and though expensive, its not in the thousands, its around £70 for an injection every 2 months. The beauty of it is no testing.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What Breakspear did do well, was direct me towards useful tests (often at American labs) that looked for intestinal parasites, bacteria overgrowth, beneficial bacterial, inflammation, absorption etc. I found my IBS was actually an inflammatory bowel disease and have been doing better since I addressed that. However the allergies were a total waste. Of course someone with an inflammatory disease is going to have problems with food. Trying to neutralise allergies in a situation of inflammation is hopeless.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The EPD injections and reformed diet are helping me a lot. Its easy to keep on paying when you don&#039;t get better because you feel so awful but my advice is get as much information as you can for yourself, don&#039;t just accept what doctors are saying to you, or that what worked miracles for one person will do the same for you and Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tried Alcat, Nutreval and other types of allergy testing via blood samples several times and in my experience, the foods you&#8217;ve been eating recently come up but results aren&#8217;t consistent. Don&#8217;t eat your favourite chilli for 2 weeks and kidney beans go from reactive to neutral. I suppose the real moral is eat a varied diet and you&#8217;ll have less reactivity and better health.</p>
<p>As you talk about Breakspear here I want to say I was a patient there for several years and I have to say that my experience is mixed.</p>
<p>I spent thousands on the allergy vaccines but they had absolutely no effect on me (although they did seem to be doing other people there some good, or perhaps that&#8217;s what they thought seeing me there)&#8230; The main reason for the cost was days and days of testing, the treatment itself was not that expensive but after 6 months I had to give up (because you need regular re-testing hence more expense).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve recently found enzyme-potentiated desensitization to be much more beneficial and though expensive, its not in the thousands, its around £70 for an injection every 2 months. The beauty of it is no testing.</p>
<p>What Breakspear did do well, was direct me towards useful tests (often at American labs) that looked for intestinal parasites, bacteria overgrowth, beneficial bacterial, inflammation, absorption etc. I found my IBS was actually an inflammatory bowel disease and have been doing better since I addressed that. However the allergies were a total waste. Of course someone with an inflammatory disease is going to have problems with food. Trying to neutralise allergies in a situation of inflammation is hopeless.</p>
<p>The EPD injections and reformed diet are helping me a lot. Its easy to keep on paying when you don&#8217;t get better because you feel so awful but my advice is get as much information as you can for yourself, don&#8217;t just accept what doctors are saying to you, or that what worked miracles for one person will do the same for you and Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/08/breakspear-hospital-and-electromagnetic.html#comment-5047</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Shinga.  yep, they still seem to rely largely on a few conference papers as &#039;proof&#039; it works.  After 50 years, you&#039;d hope for slightly better evidence...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Shinga.  yep, they still seem to rely largely on a few conference papers as &#8216;proof&#8217; it works.  After 50 years, you&#8217;d hope for slightly better evidence&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shinga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shinga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.allergyhospital.co.uk/controversial_allergy_tests.htm&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Adrian Morris has this to say about ALCAT&lt;/a&gt; (which seems to be a repackage of something that&#039;s been around for a while):&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;Bryan’s Leukocytotoxic test was originally developed in 1956 by a Dr Black, and further elucidated by Bryan in 1960. The basis of the test is that if the patient’s white blood cells are mixed with the offending allergen, they swell. The test then measures any swelling of the Leukocytes (white blood Cells) and if a certain threshold of swelling is measured., using a Coulter Counter – a Positive result is recorded. Studies to date have shown poor correlation between this test and clinical allergy. The marketers, who rely on anecdotal evidence of efficacy, do not mention these disappointing clinical studies. A large number of allergens are tested for and patients are usually positive to a number of foods, additives and other agents. Katelaris in Australia and Steinman in South Africa both conducted studies on the ALCAT test and found no diagnostic accuracy. At present the test is marketed in the UK under the name &quot;Nutron&quot;. Despite claims to the contrary, no large studies have ever shown the test to be accurate despite it being available for 44 years.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The original protagonists of the ALCAT test (which includes the Leucocytotoxic test and Nutron Test) could only site a few non-peer reviewed congress abstracts as evidence that it had worked. While the antagonists (some of the leading opinion leaders in the allergy of field including Bindslev-Jensen, Potter and Katelaris) have substantial data on record to show a poor diagnostic accuracy. The lack of medical support for these tests, is often blamed on a conspiracy by the larger Multinational Diagnostic companies to try and remove the &quot;smaller&quot; opposition from the market. This perception is not a true evaluation of the situation.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://www.allergyhospital.co.uk/controversial_allergy_tests.htm" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Adrian Morris has this to say about ALCAT</a> (which seems to be a repackage of something that&#8217;s been around for a while):</p>
<p>&#8220;Bryan’s Leukocytotoxic test was originally developed in 1956 by a Dr Black, and further elucidated by Bryan in 1960. The basis of the test is that if the patient’s white blood cells are mixed with the offending allergen, they swell. The test then measures any swelling of the Leukocytes (white blood Cells) and if a certain threshold of swelling is measured., using a Coulter Counter – a Positive result is recorded. Studies to date have shown poor correlation between this test and clinical allergy. The marketers, who rely on anecdotal evidence of efficacy, do not mention these disappointing clinical studies. A large number of allergens are tested for and patients are usually positive to a number of foods, additives and other agents. Katelaris in Australia and Steinman in South Africa both conducted studies on the ALCAT test and found no diagnostic accuracy. At present the test is marketed in the UK under the name &#8220;Nutron&#8221;. Despite claims to the contrary, no large studies have ever shown the test to be accurate despite it being available for 44 years.</p>
<p>The original protagonists of the ALCAT test (which includes the Leucocytotoxic test and Nutron Test) could only site a few non-peer reviewed congress abstracts as evidence that it had worked. While the antagonists (some of the leading opinion leaders in the allergy of field including Bindslev-Jensen, Potter and Katelaris) have substantial data on record to show a poor diagnostic accuracy. The lack of medical support for these tests, is often blamed on a conspiracy by the larger Multinational Diagnostic companies to try and remove the &#8220;smaller&#8221; opposition from the market. This perception is not a true evaluation of the situation.&#8221;</p>
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