Do the same experiment with a 12C or even a 30C and then you are talking. Are you a homeopath brave 'Anonymous'? Do you not undertand the issues here?

1. go to a garden centre and buy a sundew plant (drosera rotundiflora). It has to be fresh.
2. Buy a bottle of liquid ammonium carbonicum 6C (that is one in hundred six times).
3. Drop some tap water on the leaves of the plant and wait – nothing will happen.
4. Drop a few drops of the ammounium carb. 6C on the same leaves and wait – the same leaves will react and close.

And the change of life is total. You may have finished your bottle of port daily for twenty years, but at the Water Cure you must perforce practice total abstinence. For years you may never have tasted fair water, but here you will get nothing else to drink, and you will have to dispose of your seven or eight tumblers a day.

You may have been accustomed to loll in bed of a morning till nine or ten o’clock; but here you must imitate those who would thrive, and ‘rise at five:’ while the exertion is compensated by your having to bundle off to your chamber at 9.30 p.M.

You may long at breakfast for your hot tea, and if a Scotchman, for your grouse pie or devilled kidneys; but you will be obliged to make up with the simpler refreshment of bread and milk, with the accompaniment of stewed Normandy pippins.

You may have been wont to spend your days in a fever of business, in a breathless hurry and worry of engagements to be met and matters to be seen to; but after a week under the Water Cure, you will find yourself stretched listlessly upon grassy banks in the summer noon, or sauntering all day beneath the horse-chestnuts of Sudbrook, with a mind as free from business cares as if you were numbered among Tennyson’s lotus-eaters, or the denizens of Thomson’s Castle of Indolence.

And with God’s blessing upon the pure element He has given us in such abundance, you will shortly (testibus Mr. Lane and Sir E. B. Lytton) experience other changes as complete, and more agreeable. You will find that the appetite which no dainty could tempt, now discovers in the simplest fare a relish unknown since childhood. You will find the broken rest and the troubled dreams which for years have made the midnight watches terrible, exchanged for the long refreshful sleep that makes one mouthful of the night. You will find the gloom and depression and anxiety which were growing your habitual temper, succeeded by a lightness of heart and buoyancy of spirit which you cannot account for, but which you thankfully enjoy.

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Sounds delightful – we now pay thousands of dollars a week for places like this.

‘treating individuals’ is homeopathic rhetoric. What does it mean? If I am an individual with malaria, I would like my malaria to disappear please. Call it treating me as an individual or a disease, i do not care. Just make sure I do not die.

And that is the point about trials. DBRCTs make absolutely no assumptions about the nature of the treatment or the nature of the measured outcomes, whether it is based on the ‘individual’ or a more objective measure of the presence of, say, malarial parasites, or even death. It is perfectly possible to test homeopathy with trials. Say what you want to achieve (e.g. reduce death)and then measure it in a blinded fashion. Its that simple. Why do you now get it?

My feeling is that you do get it but you are a dissembler, Antony.

Anyway this is funny. If you check the BMJ website below you’ll see only 13% of NHS treatments is rated as beneficial. A horrendous statistic.

By the way Darwin was still a eugenicist who’s own offspring suffered the consequences. If he was such a genius why did he experiment by procreating with his own family members, a fact well known in those days to produce delinquents, still births and allopaths.

http://clinicalevidence.bmj.com/ceweb/about/knowledge.jsp

Besides the holidays which I have mentioned there were his visits to the water cure. He began in 1849 when very ill suffering from constant sickness. He was urged to try to water cure by Fox (or Sulivan) and at last agreed to try Dr. Gully’s establishment.1 — His letters to Fox show how much good the treatment did him: I fancy he thought that he found a cure for his troubles, which but like all other remedies it had only a transient effect on him. However he found it at first so good for him that he built himself a douche when he came home, & Parslow learned to be his bathman. He thought Dr. Gully a clever Dr but I do not think he liked him. He was repelled by all the homeopathy & spiritualism that Dr Gully favoured. — He so far humoured Dr G. as to allow himself to be examined by a medical clairvoyante. who This person who localized the mischief in the stomach, in doing so he followed as my father believed some unconscious hints from Gully or his assistant.” It was I think to this clairvoyante to whom my father offered a £5 note if she could tell him the number. She scornfully refused demean herself in such a way…

http://darwin-online.org.uk/content/frameset?viewtype=side&itemID=CUL-DAR140.3.1–159&pageseq=88

Anyway, would not want to get between you and taking money off your customers anymore. Hope you are having fun.

I don’t have time to debate this on another link and frankly I don’t wish to debate with such an obsequious abusive little turd like you anymore as I have clients to cure. Adios and if you do find any RCT’s proving the efficacy of vaccines do let me know. I’ll let you get back to destroying children’s immune systems.