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	<title>Comments on: Jeanette Winterson in Blistering Attack on Homeopathy</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/11/jeanette-winterson-in-blistering-attack.html#comment-8562</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous said... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- see the miilions benfitted from Homoeopathy and then speak-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have not seen these millions, but from your comment I infer you have. If so, please share your data with us, this is a large enough dataset that it would resolve all the conflicts in (and outside) this forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous said&#8230; </p>
<p>- see the miilions benfitted from Homoeopathy and then speak-</p>
<p>I have not seen these millions, but from your comment I infer you have. If so, please share your data with us, this is a large enough dataset that it would resolve all the conflicts in (and outside) this forum.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackDuckSquelcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlackDuckSquelcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad we&#039;re friends. Hope I didn&#039;t dent your beak. It is straight isn&#039;t it? Hope so. Good night and sleep tight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad we&#8217;re friends. Hope I didn&#8217;t dent your beak. It is straight isn&#8217;t it? Hope so. Good night and sleep tight.</p>
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		<title>By: Le Canard Noir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Le Canard Noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I would have to agree with you. It is amazing that homeopaths cannot and will not demonstrate the foundations of their beliefs.Your test is essentially the samevas my challenge. This is not a gimmick - it is simple academic rigour. Can you imagine any other science course not getting its undergraduates to do experiments like this upon which to build their academic training? This utter lack of attention to such important details makes me question if homeopaths a) are sincere of b) competent enough to be let near sick people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I would have to agree with you. It is amazing that homeopaths cannot and will not demonstrate the foundations of their beliefs.Your test is essentially the samevas my challenge. This is not a gimmick &#8211; it is simple academic rigour. Can you imagine any other science course not getting its undergraduates to do experiments like this upon which to build their academic training? This utter lack of attention to such important details makes me question if homeopaths a) are sincere of b) competent enough to be let near sick people.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackDuckSquelcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlackDuckSquelcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you should rename yourself Slippery Fish! &lt;br/&gt;Le Poisson Glissant serait un idee excellent pour vous n&#039;est-ce pas?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Seriously though if you click onto the following on my site you will find that I am in fact doing my best to instigate some experimentation that would meet your approval. It is difficult. Some homeopathic researchers choose to ignore me, some have said it would be just a gimmick. Some have said it is an excellent idea but would require considerable expense and organisation. It is very frustrating!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.minervabooks.co.uk/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=241&amp;products_id=392&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;PS Gantlord seems eager to hear that homeopathy is suffering. If he goes to the Companies House website he could check out for himself to see if turnover at homeopathic pharmacies is nose-diving.(Ainsworths, Nelsons, Helios)  He will in fact find it is remarkably steady.&lt;br/&gt;I suspect getting rid of homeopathy will not be that easy as it is a grassroots thing. Closing down NHS hospitals won&#039;t change much. Pulling down churches wouldn&#039;t stop people reading the Bible either! &lt;br/&gt;Few scientists understand human nature which is why so many are appallingly inadequate artists, healers and musicians. You can often tell them by the way they dress! But don&#039;t take this personally please !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you should rename yourself Slippery Fish! <br />Le Poisson Glissant serait un idee excellent pour vous n&#39;est-ce pas?</p>
<p>Seriously though if you click onto the following on my site you will find that I am in fact doing my best to instigate some experimentation that would meet your approval. It is difficult. Some homeopathic researchers choose to ignore me, some have said it would be just a gimmick. Some have said it is an excellent idea but would require considerable expense and organisation. It is very frustrating!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.minervabooks.co.uk/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=241&amp;products_id=392" rel="nofollow">http://www.minervabooks.co.uk/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=241&amp;products_id=392</a></p>
<p>PS Gantlord seems eager to hear that homeopathy is suffering. If he goes to the Companies House website he could check out for himself to see if turnover at homeopathic pharmacies is nose-diving.(Ainsworths, Nelsons, Helios)  He will in fact find it is remarkably steady.<br />I suspect getting rid of homeopathy will not be that easy as it is a grassroots thing. Closing down NHS hospitals won&#39;t change much. Pulling down churches wouldn&#39;t stop people reading the Bible either! <br />Few scientists understand human nature which is why so many are appallingly inadequate artists, healers and musicians. You can often tell them by the way they dress! But don&#39;t take this personally please !</p>
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		<title>By: Le Canard Noir</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/11/jeanette-winterson-in-blistering-attack.html#comment-6653</link>
		<dc:creator>Le Canard Noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obsessing with my personal biography simply highlights the bankruptcy of the homeopaths&#039; case. Rather than address my substantive charges (e.g. that advocating homeopathy for the treatment of HIV is sheer lunacy) you want to seek my motives as if they are anything other than pointing out the damn obvious to an irresponsible crowd who will not take on the responsibility their chosen trade demands.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Despite your eagerness for amateurish private detective work, you have obviously failed to read my &#039;about&#039; pages that answer your childish questions. My employment status has nothing to do with this blog. I have declared that I receive no financial reward for my work or any external inducement to write what I write. All my own work, I am afraid, in my own time. It&#039;s a hobby. The only reward in kind I get is from my web hosts, Positive, who have chosen to support my work out of a sense of wider public duty, by hosting me for free.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The exams I have sat also have no bearing on my arguments here. Homeopathy is still nonsense despite my lack of a made-up diploma in the subject. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You may well say that I cannot criticise homeopathy if I have not studied it for X years. Well I can be sure that Bertrand Russell&#039;s tea pot does not exist either without having a PhD in Cosmic Crockery Studies. The little boy did not go to classes in Imperial Invisible Textiles to say the Emperor had no clothes. The answer to this charge is the same answer as Richard Dawkins gives in his book &lt;i&gt;The God Delusion&lt;/i&gt;. He does not need to have studied theology for decades to realise the foundations of the subject are missing. You are a fool to discuss the wallpaper in the attic of a house when the foundations are not solid. Homeopathy is thoroughly implausible and the totally of the evidence shows it is a placebo treatment. Simple. In fact, I would say that all training in homeopathy is bogus as none of it embraces rigorous academic standards of evidence and reason. In fact, it undoubtedly trains its poor students to reject reason.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you want to indulge in gossipy speculation about me then fine, but you loose the right to be taken seriously. The future of homeopathy will be decided by adults. That so many homeopaths prefer to engage in idle conspiracy theorising rather than tackle the issues being raised ensures that the further decline of their shabby trade is inevitable. It is time for some brave homeopath to realise this and lead their profession into the world of reality. I somehow doubt that will happen though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obsessing with my personal biography simply highlights the bankruptcy of the homeopaths&#8217; case. Rather than address my substantive charges (e.g. that advocating homeopathy for the treatment of HIV is sheer lunacy) you want to seek my motives as if they are anything other than pointing out the damn obvious to an irresponsible crowd who will not take on the responsibility their chosen trade demands.</p>
<p>Despite your eagerness for amateurish private detective work, you have obviously failed to read my &#8216;about&#8217; pages that answer your childish questions. My employment status has nothing to do with this blog. I have declared that I receive no financial reward for my work or any external inducement to write what I write. All my own work, I am afraid, in my own time. It&#8217;s a hobby. The only reward in kind I get is from my web hosts, Positive, who have chosen to support my work out of a sense of wider public duty, by hosting me for free.</p>
<p>The exams I have sat also have no bearing on my arguments here. Homeopathy is still nonsense despite my lack of a made-up diploma in the subject. </p>
<p>You may well say that I cannot criticise homeopathy if I have not studied it for X years. Well I can be sure that Bertrand Russell&#8217;s tea pot does not exist either without having a PhD in Cosmic Crockery Studies. The little boy did not go to classes in Imperial Invisible Textiles to say the Emperor had no clothes. The answer to this charge is the same answer as Richard Dawkins gives in his book <i>The God Delusion</i>. He does not need to have studied theology for decades to realise the foundations of the subject are missing. You are a fool to discuss the wallpaper in the attic of a house when the foundations are not solid. Homeopathy is thoroughly implausible and the totally of the evidence shows it is a placebo treatment. Simple. In fact, I would say that all training in homeopathy is bogus as none of it embraces rigorous academic standards of evidence and reason. In fact, it undoubtedly trains its poor students to reject reason.</p>
<p>If you want to indulge in gossipy speculation about me then fine, but you loose the right to be taken seriously. The future of homeopathy will be decided by adults. That so many homeopaths prefer to engage in idle conspiracy theorising rather than tackle the issues being raised ensures that the further decline of their shabby trade is inevitable. It is time for some brave homeopath to realise this and lead their profession into the world of reality. I somehow doubt that will happen though.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackDuckSquelcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlackDuckSquelcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;s a clever little boy? What a detective!&lt;br/&gt;I was simply trying to quickly establish the motives/ background of our Dr Andrew Lewis who doesn&#039;t appear to be a medical doctor. (not a GMC member).He simply refuses to let us know basic information. WHY? If he was more forthcoming there would be less rumour and curiosity about him.&lt;br/&gt;I hear the strangest tales about him. I&#039;m sure at least some are  nonsense ! Why not confirm this? Why can&#039;t he explain how he replies to messages at all hours and days if he is busy and professional? It is intriguing.&lt;br/&gt;He is clearly a clever organised chap and I do respect some of the things he says. He does though love to do the Blair thing of attacking manufactured and highly selected targets so as to &#039;win&#039; his &#039;discussions&#039;.&lt;br/&gt;It is perfectly natural of somebody to want to know whether he is truly doing this himself or with backing. Don&#039;t I have the right to be sceptical too?&lt;br/&gt;Things I want to know: &lt;br/&gt;What is he qualified in?&lt;br/&gt;What is his current line of business?&lt;br/&gt;Why should this be a problem? I&#039;m sure he is not a criminal so why so cagey? &lt;br/&gt;If I can get a satisfactory answer I might stop bothering the board.&lt;br/&gt;Now surely that&#039;s a incentive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s a clever little boy? What a detective!<br />I was simply trying to quickly establish the motives/ background of our Dr Andrew Lewis who doesn&#8217;t appear to be a medical doctor. (not a GMC member).He simply refuses to let us know basic information. WHY? If he was more forthcoming there would be less rumour and curiosity about him.<br />I hear the strangest tales about him. I&#8217;m sure at least some are  nonsense ! Why not confirm this? Why can&#8217;t he explain how he replies to messages at all hours and days if he is busy and professional? It is intriguing.<br />He is clearly a clever organised chap and I do respect some of the things he says. He does though love to do the Blair thing of attacking manufactured and highly selected targets so as to &#8216;win&#8217; his &#8216;discussions&#8217;.<br />It is perfectly natural of somebody to want to know whether he is truly doing this himself or with backing. Don&#8217;t I have the right to be sceptical too?<br />Things I want to know: <br />What is he qualified in?<br />What is his current line of business?<br />Why should this be a problem? I&#8217;m sure he is not a criminal so why so cagey? <br />If I can get a satisfactory answer I might stop bothering the board.<br />Now surely that&#8217;s a incentive?</p>
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		<title>By: gantlord</title>
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		<dc:creator>gantlord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stewart McOwan, of Minerva Homeopathic Books. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;How&#039;s business? Noticed a dip in sales that&#039;s set you off on this little crusade, or are you so happy in your work that you wanted to share your joy with us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stewart McOwan, of Minerva Homeopathic Books. </p>
<p>How&#8217;s business? Noticed a dip in sales that&#8217;s set you off on this little crusade, or are you so happy in your work that you wanted to share your joy with us?</p>
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		<title>By: Le Canard Noir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Le Canard Noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>slmcowan - you have clearly demonstrated your utter ridiculous now. The only place you could have obtained your incorrect biographical information about me is from that loon I warned you about. And for the record, what you have posted is utterly wrong. Obi was wrong (unsurprisingly) and you followed him like a sad sheep. This shows that your investigative skills and standards of evidence are sadly typical of a homeopath - non-existent.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But by thinking you can post what you believe to be personal biographical information in an attempt to win arguments, you demonstrate a complete lack of judgement and an inability to take part in grown up criticism. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would be quite within my rights to ban you from my blog, but your posts add much comedic value here so I will not. But you have lost the right to post uncensored material - and that is something I invoke very rarely. Your post has been deleted and further posts will be allowed only of they allow me to laugh at you.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Your central problem appears to be that you cannot comprehend how posting a blog entry of 500 words a week can take anything less than a full time career funded by conspiratorial forces. In your imagination you can only conceive of vested interests working overtime to destroy your little secret. The truth is that a few hours a week and use of google tools is all it takes to mock your deluded trade - deservedly. One can achieve great things by giving up watching Eastenders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>slmcowan &#8211; you have clearly demonstrated your utter ridiculous now. The only place you could have obtained your incorrect biographical information about me is from that loon I warned you about. And for the record, what you have posted is utterly wrong. Obi was wrong (unsurprisingly) and you followed him like a sad sheep. This shows that your investigative skills and standards of evidence are sadly typical of a homeopath &#8211; non-existent.</p>
<p>But by thinking you can post what you believe to be personal biographical information in an attempt to win arguments, you demonstrate a complete lack of judgement and an inability to take part in grown up criticism. </p>
<p>I would be quite within my rights to ban you from my blog, but your posts add much comedic value here so I will not. But you have lost the right to post uncensored material &#8211; and that is something I invoke very rarely. Your post has been deleted and further posts will be allowed only of they allow me to laugh at you.</p>
<p>Your central problem appears to be that you cannot comprehend how posting a blog entry of 500 words a week can take anything less than a full time career funded by conspiratorial forces. In your imagination you can only conceive of vested interests working overtime to destroy your little secret. The truth is that a few hours a week and use of google tools is all it takes to mock your deluded trade &#8211; deservedly. One can achieve great things by giving up watching Eastenders.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackDuckSquelcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlackDuckSquelcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t talk to drunken port drinkers with a sore head. Waste of time getting any sense out of them. Usually bad-tempered and surly. Have cocoa next time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t talk to drunken port drinkers with a sore head. Waste of time getting any sense out of them. Usually bad-tempered and surly. Have cocoa next time!</p>
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		<title>By: gantlord</title>
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		<dc:creator>gantlord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;you&#039;re talking to everyone here. Because I posted in this back in November, everything you write comes to me as a little email, addressed from you to me. This is like a little living room, for like minded people to sit around the fireside discussing what interests them. In this case, the pseudoscience that is homeopathy. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;After conversation had died down, and we slumped asleep in our chairs after one too many ports, suddenly you came blundering in with a menacing tone, talking about deep-fried duck and hinting &quot;I know where you live&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you think Andy knows who you are, why don&#039;t you just tell us anyway?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The truth to this website is as plain as day. Andy Lewis is one of many thousands incensed by quackery. He simply happens to possess the technical skills, tenacity, rationality and patience to do something about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, </p>
<p>you&#8217;re talking to everyone here. Because I posted in this back in November, everything you write comes to me as a little email, addressed from you to me. This is like a little living room, for like minded people to sit around the fireside discussing what interests them. In this case, the pseudoscience that is homeopathy. </p>
<p>After conversation had died down, and we slumped asleep in our chairs after one too many ports, suddenly you came blundering in with a menacing tone, talking about deep-fried duck and hinting &#8220;I know where you live&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you think Andy knows who you are, why don&#8217;t you just tell us anyway?</p>
<p>The truth to this website is as plain as day. Andy Lewis is one of many thousands incensed by quackery. He simply happens to possess the technical skills, tenacity, rationality and patience to do something about it.</p>
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