Comments on: The $100 Homeopathy Challenge: Update http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/12/100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html Experiments and Thoughts on Quackery, Health Beliefs and Pseudoscience Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:47:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: carl t http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/12/100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-14384 carl t Tue, 22 Feb 2011 03:38:45 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/12/the-100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-14384 homeo would qualify for $1 million Randi challenge! suspect subconciously many homeos half know subconciously "just"placebo (which can work well for some conditions) homeo would qualify for $1 million Randi challenge!

suspect subconciously many homeos half know subconciously “just”placebo (which can work well for some conditions)

]]> By: Antares http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/12/100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-10500 Antares Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:56:08 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/12/the-100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-10500 Oh come on, now you are copy-pasting your mindless from thread to thread? Pathetic. Oh come on, now you are copy-pasting your mindless from thread to thread? Pathetic.

]]> By: admin http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/12/100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-10486 admin Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:39:48 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/12/the-100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-10486 This is not true. Homeopaths claim that their remedies produce consistent symptoms pictures in healthy people. it is the fundamental basis of the ‘proving’ technique. If this is false, then homeopathy collapses. If it is true, then my test should be easy. Do remedies produce distinctive, consistent symptoms or not? PS Stop double posting - this is the last time you will do that, OK? This is not true. Homeopaths claim that their remedies produce consistent symptoms pictures in healthy people. it is the fundamental basis of the ‘proving’ technique. If this is false, then homeopathy collapses.

If it is true, then my test should be easy. Do remedies produce distinctive, consistent symptoms or not?

PS Stop double posting – this is the last time you will do that, OK?

]]> By: Pankaj Gupta http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/12/100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-10484 Pankaj Gupta Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:53:18 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/12/the-100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-10484 only a nerd will come to your challenge. It is an ill conceived and totally useless experiment. None of the Homeopath themselves claim that they can detect medicine this way. so whose claims are you challenging ? They claim that they can cure real patients using Homeo medicines. so send them patients to let them prove. and why send any patients , when already thousands and millions patients already visit them and get relief. But they are ridiculed by few as chance healing or natural healing. What an explanation that applies only when one gets cured with Homeopathy. only a nerd will come to your challenge. It is an ill conceived and totally useless experiment. None of the Homeopath themselves claim that they can detect medicine this way. so whose claims are you challenging ? They claim that they can cure real patients using Homeo medicines. so send them patients to let them prove. and why send any patients , when already thousands and millions patients already visit them and get relief. But they are ridiculed by few as chance healing or natural healing. What an explanation that applies only when one gets cured with Homeopathy.

]]> By: Katherine http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/12/100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-10398 Katherine Thu, 04 Mar 2010 03:00:06 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/12/the-100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-10398 That vaccine challenge is a giant crock. The participant must buy 6 anti-vaccine books at their own cost and be tested on them, if they fail the test, they must donate $5000-10000 to some quack organisation and are ineligible for the challenge. Also they will give you thimerosal even though it has been taken out of all vaccines in the US (without any evidence to suggest that it is dangerous in the quantities it was present in vaccines, I might add). Do they up the quantity of active or non-active ingredients in vaccines for adults? I don't think so but I could be wrong. I also find it hilarious how an anonymous commenter keeps referring to people's qualifications and ignoring their quackery when they are found to contain quacks on the quackometer. The only problem I've had with the quackometer is that it doesn't seem to search far enough on larger sites, so they inevitably get 0 quacks. That vaccine challenge is a giant crock. The participant must buy 6 anti-vaccine books at their own cost and be tested on them, if they fail the test, they must donate $5000-10000 to some quack organisation and are ineligible for the challenge. Also they will give you thimerosal even though it has been taken out of all vaccines in the US (without any evidence to suggest that it is dangerous in the quantities it was present in vaccines, I might add).

Do they up the quantity of active or non-active ingredients in vaccines for adults? I don’t think so but I could be wrong.

I also find it hilarious how an anonymous commenter keeps referring to people’s qualifications and ignoring their quackery when they are found to contain quacks on the quackometer. The only problem I’ve had with the quackometer is that it doesn’t seem to search far enough on larger sites, so they inevitably get 0 quacks.

]]> By: Michael Kingsford Gray http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/12/100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-10391 Michael Kingsford Gray Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:55:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/12/the-100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-10391 Get the Homeopath to take several randomly selected pills as well. If they are adulterated, he will stand a good chance of poisoning himself. Get the Homeopath to take several randomly selected pills as well.
If they are adulterated, he will stand a good chance of poisoning himself.

]]> By: Antares http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/12/100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-9977 Antares Tue, 16 Feb 2010 13:00:07 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/12/the-100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-9977 Could we get Soroush to send you the pill(s) and then have them analysed at a good forensics lab? If the MS (or other method of choice) picks up anything more than sugar, he has tried to cheat and should be jailed. :-) Daniel Could we get Soroush to send you the pill(s) and then have them analysed at a good forensics lab? If the MS (or other method of choice) picks up anything more than sugar, he has tried to cheat and should be jailed.

:-)

Daniel

]]> By: A Simple Challenge to Homeopaths | The Quackometer http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/12/100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-9931 A Simple Challenge to Homeopaths | The Quackometer Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:10:23 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/12/the-100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-9931 [...] I see no reason why a trial like this could not be done. Instead of lots of homeopathic whining about how the sceptics are picking on them, this trial would be a big step forward in proving your case. I can see many homeopaths taking the line, “Why should I do this? I see proof in my practice every day”. If that voice is you, then rest assured the critics of homeopathy will not go away, because there is every reason to believe you are been fooled by the placebo effect, regression to the mean, and wishful thinking. They will see you as dangerously deluded. If it is not done, then I can only conclude that homeopaths are frightened of the results. What is to stop you? Let’s go… Update here [...] [...] I see no reason why a trial like this could not be done. Instead of lots of homeopathic whining about how the sceptics are picking on them, this trial would be a big step forward in proving your case. I can see many homeopaths taking the line, “Why should I do this? I see proof in my practice every day”. If that voice is you, then rest assured the critics of homeopathy will not go away, because there is every reason to believe you are been fooled by the placebo effect, regression to the mean, and wishful thinking. They will see you as dangerously deluded. If it is not done, then I can only conclude that homeopaths are frightened of the results. What is to stop you? Let’s go… Update here [...]

]]> By: Le Canard Noir http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/12/100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-6312 Le Canard Noir Sat, 07 Jun 2008 11:43:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/12/the-100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-6312 Thank you Dr Malik. That gives a great reason to compare this challenge with mine. <br/><br/>Look at the conditions attatched...<br/>http://www.spontaneouscreation.org/SC/ContractPartA.htm<br/><br/>I make no such conditions. Indeed, I make it as open as possible.<br/><br/>I think the vaccine challenge is nothing more than a silly stunt. Thank you Dr Malik. That gives a great reason to compare this challenge with mine.

Look at the conditions attatched…
http://www.spontaneouscreation.org/SC/ContractPartA.htm

I make no such conditions. Indeed, I make it as open as possible.

I think the vaccine challenge is nothing more than a silly stunt.

]]> By: Dr. Nancy Malik http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/12/100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-6311 Dr. Nancy Malik Sat, 07 Jun 2008 11:20:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2007/12/the-100-homeopathy-challenge-update.html#comment-6311 Million Dollar Challenge to Allopaths<br/><br/>http://www.spontaneouscreation.org/SC/$75,000VaccineOffer.htm Million Dollar Challenge to Allopaths

http://www.spontaneouscreation.org/SC/$75,000VaccineOffer.htm

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