Comments on: More Threats to the Quackometer http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/more-threats-to-quackometer.html Experiments and Thoughts on Quackery, Health Beliefs and Pseudoscience Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:47:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Why Libel Laws Must Change | The Quackometer http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/more-threats-to-quackometer.html#comment-13197 Why Libel Laws Must Change | The Quackometer Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:15:58 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/01/more-threats-to-the-quackometer.html#comment-13197 [...] wrote about him – and he tried to copycat the Society by complaining to my web hosts. But in this case, he did not use a solicitor but a legal letter writer – a recently graduated [...] [...] wrote about him – and he tried to copycat the Society by complaining to my web hosts. But in this case, he did not use a solicitor but a legal letter writer – a recently graduated [...]

]]> By: BSM http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/more-threats-to-quackometer.html#comment-5861 BSM Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:04:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/01/more-threats-to-the-quackometer.html#comment-5861 Googling;<br/><br/>Professor Dr. Joseph Chikelue Obi (5/10)<br/>Dr. Joseph Chikelue Obi (4/10)<br/> Joseph Chikelue Obi (7/10)<br/><br/>is getting more duckophilic links on the first page, though with the variations shown above in their proportion of that page. Googling;

Professor Dr. Joseph Chikelue Obi (5/10)
Dr. Joseph Chikelue Obi (4/10)
Joseph Chikelue Obi (7/10)

is getting more duckophilic links on the first page, though with the variations shown above in their proportion of that page.

]]> By: John http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/more-threats-to-quackometer.html#comment-5848 John Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:10:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/01/more-threats-to-the-quackometer.html#comment-5848 I've <a HREF="http://www.computernewbie.info/wheatdogg/2008/01/25/in-the-uk-obi-wan-is-not-a-nice-man/" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">posted</a> as well. I’ve posted as well.

]]> By: Ian Hobson http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/more-threats-to-quackometer.html#comment-5833 Ian Hobson Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:18:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/01/more-threats-to-the-quackometer.html#comment-5833 This is truly scary.<br/>I've posted something in support on my own (mainly unread) blog, and provided a few links.<br/>I second the suggestions to give up Netcetera, but the bigger issue is this prick, Obi Wan.<br/>Quackometer, I support you wholeheartedly! This is truly scary.
I’ve posted something in support on my own (mainly unread) blog, and provided a few links.
I second the suggestions to give up Netcetera, but the bigger issue is this prick, Obi Wan.
Quackometer, I support you wholeheartedly!

]]> By: le canard noir http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/more-threats-to-quackometer.html#comment-5832 le canard noir Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:15:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/01/more-threats-to-the-quackometer.html#comment-5832 Actually, one thing that would be good is if all reposters would include a few links to other posters. Neurologica has the most google juice, so that is a good place to start. Actually, one thing that would be good is if all reposters would include a few links to other posters. Neurologica has the most google juice, so that is a good place to start.

]]> By: le canard noir http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/more-threats-to-quackometer.html#comment-5831 le canard noir Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:05:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/01/more-threats-to-the-quackometer.html#comment-5831 Thanks Paul and all,<br/><br/><i>but is there anything else we can do to help?</i><br/><br/>I think all we need do now is sit back and wait for the punchline. Thanks Paul and all,

but is there anything else we can do to help?

I think all we need do now is sit back and wait for the punchline.

]]> By: PhD scientist http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/more-threats-to-quackometer.html#comment-5830 PhD scientist Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:14:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/01/more-threats-to-the-quackometer.html#comment-5830 <i>"My first press interview contact was today. And I think a few more will not hurt. The internet freedom thing is the main thing to discuss."</i>.<br/><br/>I think it is wider than that, in the sense that it is another example of "legal chill" used to suppress truths which con-men and liars find inconvenient. Of course British public life has a long and rather abject tradition of this, personified in recent years by the late Robert Maxwell. <br/><br/>The particular problem with the internet is that the ISPs take this business-based (not to say craven) view that "any objection to a page / blog is potentially problematic, no matter how ridiculous the objection, so we'll just take the page down" - laughable in this case as the plaintiff did not have a shred of credibility, as a quick Google reveals.<br/><br/>At least with David Colquhoun and UCL there was an organisation / entity behind the server with some kind of moral compass, even it took a lot of public humiliation to get them to remember it. <br/><br/>With the ISPs, which are in business strictly to make money, it is hard to know what one can do. But "name and shame" is a start. So perhaps you are right about the line to use - but I still think "Legal filibuster and craven ISPs protect con-artists and crooks from exposure" makes a good "hook". “My first press interview contact was today. And I think a few more will not hurt. The internet freedom thing is the main thing to discuss.”.

I think it is wider than that, in the sense that it is another example of “legal chill” used to suppress truths which con-men and liars find inconvenient. Of course British public life has a long and rather abject tradition of this, personified in recent years by the late Robert Maxwell.

The particular problem with the internet is that the ISPs take this business-based (not to say craven) view that “any objection to a page / blog is potentially problematic, no matter how ridiculous the objection, so we’ll just take the page down” – laughable in this case as the plaintiff did not have a shred of credibility, as a quick Google reveals.

At least with David Colquhoun and UCL there was an organisation / entity behind the server with some kind of moral compass, even it took a lot of public humiliation to get them to remember it.

With the ISPs, which are in business strictly to make money, it is hard to know what one can do. But “name and shame” is a start. So perhaps you are right about the line to use – but I still think “Legal filibuster and craven ISPs protect con-artists and crooks from exposure” makes a good “hook”.

]]> By: quacknet http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/more-threats-to-quackometer.html#comment-5829 quacknet Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:50:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/01/more-threats-to-the-quackometer.html#comment-5829 I'm not sure whether Obi Wan's crude attempts to suppress open debate are really linked to other recent CAM actions (Colquhoun etc); he just seems like a cheap crook to me, although I guess he could be delusional as well. Either way, this sort of thing needs to be stopped. I will be publicising your story (in the UniVite newsletter); but is there anything else we can do to help?<br/>paul c I’m not sure whether Obi Wan’s crude attempts to suppress open debate are really linked to other recent CAM actions (Colquhoun etc); he just seems like a cheap crook to me, although I guess he could be delusional as well. Either way, this sort of thing needs to be stopped. I will be publicising your story (in the UniVite newsletter); but is there anything else we can do to help?
paul c

]]> By: wandering primate http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/more-threats-to-quackometer.html#comment-5828 wandering primate Thu, 24 Jan 2008 06:11:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/01/more-threats-to-the-quackometer.html#comment-5828 pages mirrored<br/><br/>www.wanderingprimate.com/2008/01/quakometer-speaks.html<br/><br/>Keep up the great work pages mirrored

http://www.wanderingprimate.com/2008/01/quakometer-speaks.html

Keep up the great work

]]> By: pvandck http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/more-threats-to-quackometer.html#comment-5826 pvandck Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:27:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/01/more-threats-to-the-quackometer.html#comment-5826 <i>Ms Tanja Suessenbach is just a nice bright kid straight out of uni, trying to make a living by operating a website/one person business.</i><br/><br/>Yes. I think we might have some sympathy for her if she has been duped by Mr Obi - which is quite likely. Ms Tanja Suessenbach is just a nice bright kid straight out of uni, trying to make a living by operating a website/one person business.

Yes. I think we might have some sympathy for her if she has been duped by Mr Obi – which is quite likely.

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