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		<title>By: Bill Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/triamazon-cancer-pill-scam-busted.html#comment-17087</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all, having just seen this article (yes late) posted by  friend f a friend on facebook, i had a little read.
 I am a mechanic so forgive any ignorance on pharmacutical/chemestry/propagnder and cheating goverments.
 It would seem tht mr Andrew Harris an his company charging £250 for some pills is the only winner ! 
 If by what he says that the goverment are hiding this wonder drug so pharma companies can make money out of innocent people for chemo drugs. However in todays climate (the UK) surely the cost of this wonder drug should it be so and safe, would be taken up enthusiastically by the goverment nd distrubuted accordingly. I mean  majority f cancer patients in the UK would be NHS therefore costing the govt a fortune, when theres a £20 product tht would do the jb !
 Am i just not reading rite or does it appear that everything Mr Harris is accusing the govenerment of he is doing the exact same himself ! ripping ff joe public ! I&#039;m all for natural remedies and a believer in nature that there is probly a cure there, but what are the effects of this (parkinsons) !!
Anyway thats my opinion n this as a very well uneducated grease monkey that would be happy to see Mr Harris serve his senteced trebeled for ripping off folk that are in a crisis...

Cheers

PS My real name is in here and ive nowt i can be sued for apart from me pedal bike...lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, having just seen this article (yes late) posted by  friend f a friend on facebook, i had a little read.<br />
 I am a mechanic so forgive any ignorance on pharmacutical/chemestry/propagnder and cheating goverments.<br />
 It would seem tht mr Andrew Harris an his company charging £250 for some pills is the only winner !<br />
 If by what he says that the goverment are hiding this wonder drug so pharma companies can make money out of innocent people for chemo drugs. However in todays climate (the UK) surely the cost of this wonder drug should it be so and safe, would be taken up enthusiastically by the goverment nd distrubuted accordingly. I mean  majority f cancer patients in the UK would be NHS therefore costing the govt a fortune, when theres a £20 product tht would do the jb !<br />
 Am i just not reading rite or does it appear that everything Mr Harris is accusing the govenerment of he is doing the exact same himself ! ripping ff joe public ! I&#8217;m all for natural remedies and a believer in nature that there is probly a cure there, but what are the effects of this (parkinsons) !!<br />
Anyway thats my opinion n this as a very well uneducated grease monkey that would be happy to see Mr Harris serve his senteced trebeled for ripping off folk that are in a crisis&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>PS My real name is in here and ive nowt i can be sued for apart from me pedal bike&#8230;lol</p>
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		<title>By: martia katz</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/triamazon-cancer-pill-scam-busted.html#comment-17073</link>
		<dc:creator>martia katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 05:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps it is a marvelous cure for cancer that is being witheld from the public by the pharmaceutical companies because there is not sufficient money to be made out of it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps it is a marvelous cure for cancer that is being witheld from the public by the pharmaceutical companies because there is not sufficient money to be made out of it</p>
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		<title>By: Sally 2001</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/triamazon-cancer-pill-scam-busted.html#comment-12654</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally 2001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 08:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! there

read about the claim on a Natural Product and responses as well.... I understand very well the effects of alternative medicines, especially the plant products... Most of the medicines have been extracted from various plants so why to deny or rather debate whether it works or not... In Asian countries; plants, herbs and spices are still being used to treat various ailments with success.. Many Alopathic medical practioners have decided to integrate alternative healing e.g. Reiki, pranic healing and Ayurvedic medicines in their practices... So let me summarize by saying that Alternative healing approach is not at all dangerous but no one should use it to exploit or manipulate ailing/desperate people..I along with my family use natural products regularly and I do not pay exorbitant amount to get them...Use your intellect and discretion to make a choice and Yes! do your own research on the product... There is plenty of info out there on the net..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! there</p>
<p>read about the claim on a Natural Product and responses as well&#8230;. I understand very well the effects of alternative medicines, especially the plant products&#8230; Most of the medicines have been extracted from various plants so why to deny or rather debate whether it works or not&#8230; In Asian countries; plants, herbs and spices are still being used to treat various ailments with success.. Many Alopathic medical practioners have decided to integrate alternative healing e.g. Reiki, pranic healing and Ayurvedic medicines in their practices&#8230; So let me summarize by saying that Alternative healing approach is not at all dangerous but no one should use it to exploit or manipulate ailing/desperate people..I along with my family use natural products regularly and I do not pay exorbitant amount to get them&#8230;Use your intellect and discretion to make a choice and Yes! do your own research on the product&#8230; There is plenty of info out there on the net..</p>
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		<title>By: rw23</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/triamazon-cancer-pill-scam-busted.html#comment-12318</link>
		<dc:creator>rw23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this comes two years too late to be of any use, but going by the writing style of fletch&#039;s comment (February 1, 2008 at 7:09 am) and that of the sender of the email purporting to be from Andrew Harris which Andy quotes (February 11, 2008 at 12:59 pm), I&#039;d be inclined to believe that the same person wrote both of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this comes two years too late to be of any use, but going by the writing style of fletch&#8217;s comment (February 1, 2008 at 7:09 am) and that of the sender of the email purporting to be from Andrew Harris which Andy quotes (February 11, 2008 at 12:59 pm), I&#8217;d be inclined to believe that the same person wrote both of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Google Advertises Busted Triamazon Cancer Cure &#124; The Quackometer</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/triamazon-cancer-pill-scam-busted.html#comment-12306</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Advertises Busted Triamazon Cancer Cure &#124; The Quackometer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] yesterday&#8217;s raids by the MHRA on suspect dodgy pill sellers and their &#8216;Internet Day of Action&#8217;, perhaps one of the largest profiteers from such [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] yesterday&#8217;s raids by the MHRA on suspect dodgy pill sellers and their &#8216;Internet Day of Action&#8217;, perhaps one of the largest profiteers from such [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Finchley Clinic, Triamazon and the Law. &#124; The Quackometer</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/triamazon-cancer-pill-scam-busted.html#comment-12302</link>
		<dc:creator>The Finchley Clinic, Triamazon and the Law. &#124; The Quackometer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Cancer Act of 1939 after advertising Triamazon as a cancer cure. Harris was arrested after dawn raids on his address following investigation by Trading Standards and the MHRA that he was selling [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Cancer Act of 1939 after advertising Triamazon as a cancer cure. Harris was arrested after dawn raids on his address following investigation by Trading Standards and the MHRA that he was selling [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/triamazon-cancer-pill-scam-busted.html#comment-12204</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 06:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Mr Andy Lewis
Isnt it time you put the record straight ?
We WILL meet up sooner than YOU realise !
Start cleaning away the lies you have about me and Triamazon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Mr Andy Lewis<br />
Isnt it time you put the record straight ?<br />
We WILL meet up sooner than YOU realise !<br />
Start cleaning away the lies you have about me and Triamazon.</p>
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		<title>By: Abby NormalCC</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/triamazon-cancer-pill-scam-busted.html#comment-12172</link>
		<dc:creator>Abby NormalCC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used a natural cure (baking soda) for my breast cancer and it shrank and became inactive. No returning cancer in 1 1/2 yrs either. @ nieces used chemo and radiation and had cancer return  twice in different parts of body. The chemo and radiation made them worse not better. I am just fine on the other hand . Much healthier too. I gained 7 lbs. They have lost and are deathly skinny with hair loss and fatigue. SCREW conventional treatments. The AMA and drug co&#039;s. just want your money not to cure you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used a natural cure (baking soda) for my breast cancer and it shrank and became inactive. No returning cancer in 1 1/2 yrs either. @ nieces used chemo and radiation and had cancer return  twice in different parts of body. The chemo and radiation made them worse not better. I am just fine on the other hand . Much healthier too. I gained 7 lbs. They have lost and are deathly skinny with hair loss and fatigue. SCREW conventional treatments. The AMA and drug co&#8217;s. just want your money not to cure you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/triamazon-cancer-pill-scam-busted.html#comment-12069</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pharmacognosy: the study of the physical, chemical, biochemical and biological properties of drugs, drug substances or potential drugs or drug substances of natural origin as well as the search for new drugs from natural source.

Most modern drugs originate from this line of research... and they have all been successfully patented.

Anticancer examples include vincristine, an alkaloid obtained from the Madagascar periwinkle.
An everyday example might be digoxin, a glycoside from the foxglove.

Once identified, these chemicals can easily be patented or modified and patented.
That&#039;s been the basis of 99% of pharmaceutical discovery. 

Almost all of these chemicals derived from plants are secondary metabolites that have proven to be of survival value to the plant; that means that they are not part of the main metabolic activity of the plant, which can live without them, but they have some other benefit.

The main function they serve is as pesticides; they kill or deter other organisms that might feed off the plant. This function has often evolved to be selective, so that it only affects organisms that do not participate in the life cycle of the plant.

These chemicals are not produced for the benefit of human beings, they are produced to protect the plant. This is why so many plants are inedible.

Digitalis (digoxin) is toxic to most mammals at the level it would commonly be ingested at if the plant was consumed. It can only be used safely by purification and testing. It also has a very narrow therapeutic index; the window between a safe and effective dose and one that could kill is small.

This issue also applies to a lot of anticancer drugs which work by killing cells, and it is important to use a dose and treatment regime that preferentially kills cancer cells and not the cells of the patient.
They are therefore risky drugs to use. 

The primary reason why most anticancer drugs fail to get to market is toxicity; they kill patients even more effectively than the cancer they are being used to treat. 

So, cytotoxic herbal extracts, like those from Graviola, can be very dangerous. If they do have anticancer effects I can guarantee that numerous pharma companies will be vying to get to market with a product.

Now the money issue. In the UK, the annual CAM market is more than 500 million pounds.
One of the UK based homeopathy companies has an annual turnover of about 30 million pounds, and a profit of about 5 million. 

This is not a non-profit industry, it makes plenty of money. Certainly enough money to fund trials and prove that products work.

So why don&#039;t CAM companies spend the money or at least encourage and support the research? 
Surely, proof that a single homeopathic nosode or other CAM had really good efficacy would mean huge profits and success?
Perhaps they know that their claims are hyped?

Right now, sales are based on belief. The CAM companies foster this belief, and they generate enough business that it is quite profitable.

Doing trials risks several things.
Firstly, it takes away the &quot;alternative&quot; nature of the therapies, damages their mystique and puts them on a par with all other therapies. Belief no longer required, competition introduced and people might start looking harder at the evidence for other similar products. 
Secondly, trials usually don&#039;t turn out the way you would like. Either the treatment is less successful than you hoped, or it produces adverse effects. 
Thirdly, once CAM treatments start to get rigorously tested, people then start to want regulation; what if the  treatment only works if the active ingredient is above a certain level, or the nosode is prepared under aseptic conditions? Oh shit, now we have to meet standards!

None of this is good, so why would a CAM company spend money on testing, when the only certain guarantee of profit is to rely on belief.

The anticancer drug scam, and the Cancer Act that regulates therapeutic claims, both exist for the same reason; hope, belief and desperation are intensified by the prospect of death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pharmacognosy: the study of the physical, chemical, biochemical and biological properties of drugs, drug substances or potential drugs or drug substances of natural origin as well as the search for new drugs from natural source.</p>
<p>Most modern drugs originate from this line of research&#8230; and they have all been successfully patented.</p>
<p>Anticancer examples include vincristine, an alkaloid obtained from the Madagascar periwinkle.<br />
An everyday example might be digoxin, a glycoside from the foxglove.</p>
<p>Once identified, these chemicals can easily be patented or modified and patented.<br />
That&#8217;s been the basis of 99% of pharmaceutical discovery. </p>
<p>Almost all of these chemicals derived from plants are secondary metabolites that have proven to be of survival value to the plant; that means that they are not part of the main metabolic activity of the plant, which can live without them, but they have some other benefit.</p>
<p>The main function they serve is as pesticides; they kill or deter other organisms that might feed off the plant. This function has often evolved to be selective, so that it only affects organisms that do not participate in the life cycle of the plant.</p>
<p>These chemicals are not produced for the benefit of human beings, they are produced to protect the plant. This is why so many plants are inedible.</p>
<p>Digitalis (digoxin) is toxic to most mammals at the level it would commonly be ingested at if the plant was consumed. It can only be used safely by purification and testing. It also has a very narrow therapeutic index; the window between a safe and effective dose and one that could kill is small.</p>
<p>This issue also applies to a lot of anticancer drugs which work by killing cells, and it is important to use a dose and treatment regime that preferentially kills cancer cells and not the cells of the patient.<br />
They are therefore risky drugs to use. </p>
<p>The primary reason why most anticancer drugs fail to get to market is toxicity; they kill patients even more effectively than the cancer they are being used to treat. </p>
<p>So, cytotoxic herbal extracts, like those from Graviola, can be very dangerous. If they do have anticancer effects I can guarantee that numerous pharma companies will be vying to get to market with a product.</p>
<p>Now the money issue. In the UK, the annual CAM market is more than 500 million pounds.<br />
One of the UK based homeopathy companies has an annual turnover of about 30 million pounds, and a profit of about 5 million. </p>
<p>This is not a non-profit industry, it makes plenty of money. Certainly enough money to fund trials and prove that products work.</p>
<p>So why don&#8217;t CAM companies spend the money or at least encourage and support the research?<br />
Surely, proof that a single homeopathic nosode or other CAM had really good efficacy would mean huge profits and success?<br />
Perhaps they know that their claims are hyped?</p>
<p>Right now, sales are based on belief. The CAM companies foster this belief, and they generate enough business that it is quite profitable.</p>
<p>Doing trials risks several things.<br />
Firstly, it takes away the &#8220;alternative&#8221; nature of the therapies, damages their mystique and puts them on a par with all other therapies. Belief no longer required, competition introduced and people might start looking harder at the evidence for other similar products.<br />
Secondly, trials usually don&#8217;t turn out the way you would like. Either the treatment is less successful than you hoped, or it produces adverse effects.<br />
Thirdly, once CAM treatments start to get rigorously tested, people then start to want regulation; what if the  treatment only works if the active ingredient is above a certain level, or the nosode is prepared under aseptic conditions? Oh shit, now we have to meet standards!</p>
<p>None of this is good, so why would a CAM company spend money on testing, when the only certain guarantee of profit is to rely on belief.</p>
<p>The anticancer drug scam, and the Cancer Act that regulates therapeutic claims, both exist for the same reason; hope, belief and desperation are intensified by the prospect of death.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Pelto</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/01/triamazon-cancer-pill-scam-busted.html#comment-6954</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Pelto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO: The Black Duck[er]&lt;br/&gt;RE: The Name, Please&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;If you look on the front page of my web site, you will find my name. You appear to be quite ignorant and proud of it.&quot; -- some kinda canard&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve looked at your HOME page. If that&#039;s different from your &#039;front&#039; page, maybe you should provide a URL.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, allow me to comment that it would be much simpler if you used your REAL name in your posts instead of this childishness.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Don&#039;t you think?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for being &#039;ignorant&#039;. Yeah. I&#039;m &#039;ignorant&#039;. Of your name. And you&#039;re not being particularly forthcoming. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In the military we recognize that sort of obfuscation as an indication of something that is rather &#039;unsavory&#039;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hope that puts thinks into their proper perspective. After all. I&#039;m here hanging my name out for all to see with every comment. On the other hand, we have you....&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Regards,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Chuck(le)&lt;br/&gt;[Hatred is the cowards revenge for being intimidated.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO: The Black Duck[er]<br />RE: The Name, Please</p>
<p>&#8220;If you look on the front page of my web site, you will find my name. You appear to be quite ignorant and proud of it.&#8221; &#8212; some kinda canard</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve looked at your HOME page. If that&#8217;s different from your &#8216;front&#8217; page, maybe you should provide a URL.</p>
<p>However, allow me to comment that it would be much simpler if you used your REAL name in your posts instead of this childishness.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>As for being &#8216;ignorant&#8217;. Yeah. I&#8217;m &#8216;ignorant&#8217;. Of your name. And you&#8217;re not being particularly forthcoming. </p>
<p>In the military we recognize that sort of obfuscation as an indication of something that is rather &#8216;unsavory&#8217;.</p>
<p>Hope that puts thinks into their proper perspective. After all. I&#8217;m here hanging my name out for all to see with every comment. On the other hand, we have you&#8230;.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Chuck(le)<br />[Hatred is the cowards revenge for being intimidated.]</p>
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