Comments on: Medical Astrology – Forseeing the Future of Regulated Alternative Medicine http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-future-of.html Experiments and Thoughts on Quackery, Health Beliefs and Pseudoscience Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:47:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-future-of.html#comment-8657 Anonymous Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:07:42 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-the-future-of-regulated-alternative-medicine.html#comment-8657 Sounds like "Dr." Shivadikar is better at causing disease than curing it. Sounds like "Dr." Shivadikar is better at causing disease than curing it.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-future-of.html#comment-7549 Anonymous Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:15:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-the-future-of-regulated-alternative-medicine.html#comment-7549 Would this be the same Myriam Shivadikar who appears in <a HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1023588.stm" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">this article</a>? Would this be the same Myriam Shivadikar who appears in this article?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-future-of.html#comment-6394 Anonymous Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:33:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-the-future-of-regulated-alternative-medicine.html#comment-6394 Are you all daft? if you disagree with this article you must not have any understand of "old" medicine or TCM or anything thats not traditional Western medicine. Go to one of Dr.Myriam Shivadikar's seminars and then make a comment. Are you all daft? if you disagree with this article you must not have any understand of “old” medicine or TCM or anything thats not traditional Western medicine. Go to one of Dr.Myriam Shivadikar’s seminars and then make a comment.

]]> By: David Colquhoun http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-future-of.html#comment-6093 David Colquhoun Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:30:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-the-future-of-regulated-alternative-medicine.html#comment-6093 "the whole approach of regulation by 'box ticking' is deeply flawed."<br/><br/>You hit the nail on the head. The government, egged on by the <a HREF="http://dcscience.net/?p=88" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">leprechauns</a> in the Department of Health, have pressed on with handing over their responsibilities to the Prince of Wales, <a HREF="http://dcscience.net/?p=26" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">despite pressure</a> from some of us. <br/><br/>And to make it worse, the box-ticking culture <a HREF="http://dcscience.net/?p=226" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow"> extends far beyond</a>far beyond the fantasy world of CAM.It does enormous harm to real science too. “the whole approach of regulation by ‘box ticking’ is deeply flawed.”

You hit the nail on the head. The government, egged on by the leprechauns in the Department of Health, have pressed on with handing over their responsibilities to the Prince of Wales, despite pressure from some of us.

And to make it worse, the box-ticking culture extends far beyondfar beyond the fantasy world of CAM.It does enormous harm to real science too.

]]> By: pvandck http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-future-of.html#comment-6092 pvandck Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:17:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-the-future-of-regulated-alternative-medicine.html#comment-6092 <i>In a few weeks, you can hear a talk by Lionel Milgrom who believes quantum mechanics explains homeopathy.</i><br/><br/>And why shouldn't they lap it up? It's complete fantasy and they know nothing about quantum mechanics (which Milgrom is relying on), but it will allow the quackery footsoldiers to confirm their delusions and prejudices. <br/>We should be asking what this says about Milgrom, if it wasn't already obvious, and what his motivations are, also if they aren't obvious. In a few weeks, you can hear a talk by Lionel Milgrom who believes quantum mechanics explains homeopathy.

And why shouldn’t they lap it up? It’s complete fantasy and they know nothing about quantum mechanics (which Milgrom is relying on), but it will allow the quackery footsoldiers to confirm their delusions and prejudices.
We should be asking what this says about Milgrom, if it wasn’t already obvious, and what his motivations are, also if they aren’t obvious.

]]> By: Rob http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-future-of.html#comment-6090 Rob Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:27:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-the-future-of-regulated-alternative-medicine.html#comment-6090 Damn, I live in St Albans and that sounds like a comedy goldmine. Sadly, I didn't find this out until today, the day <i>after</i> this informative seminar.<br/>*kicks self for not reading quackometer more frequently* Damn, I live in St Albans and that sounds like a comedy goldmine. Sadly, I didn’t find this out until today, the day after this informative seminar.
*kicks self for not reading quackometer more frequently*

]]> By: Muscleguy http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-future-of.html#comment-6087 Muscleguy Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:41:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-the-future-of-regulated-alternative-medicine.html#comment-6087 Of course the problem with legislating against the teaching of bollocks to future practitioners thereof is that it would catch out every seminary in the country. So it would never get past the Lord's Spiritual. Just look at what they did to Lord Joffe's Assisted Dying bill. <br/><br/>Best argument for Lords reform yet ;-) Of course the problem with legislating against the teaching of bollocks to future practitioners thereof is that it would catch out every seminary in the country. So it would never get past the Lord’s Spiritual. Just look at what they did to Lord Joffe’s Assisted Dying bill.

Best argument for Lords reform yet ;-)

]]> By: Dr Aust http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-future-of.html#comment-6088 Dr Aust Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:41:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-the-future-of-regulated-alternative-medicine.html#comment-6088 Did you read the speaker's "profile", LCN? It reveals that she has taught lots of other homeopaths, and has also done recurring radio slots as their expert on "Complementary Therapies".<br/><br/>Complementary therapy, astrology, eye of newt...<br/><br/>Un-freakin'-believable.<br/><br/>BTW, loved your demonstration a column or two back that large quantities of various "traditional wisdom" alternative modalities were invented by one or another 19th or 20th century quack. The Alties' readiness to accept absolutely ANY bonkers nonsense - as long as it SAYS it is "complementary" and as long as it definitely ISN'T "Allopathic" - is.... mind-boggling. Did you read the speaker’s “profile”, LCN? It reveals that she has taught lots of other homeopaths, and has also done recurring radio slots as their expert on “Complementary Therapies”.

Complementary therapy, astrology, eye of newt…

Un-freakin’-believable.

BTW, loved your demonstration a column or two back that large quantities of various “traditional wisdom” alternative modalities were invented by one or another 19th or 20th century quack. The Alties’ readiness to accept absolutely ANY bonkers nonsense – as long as it SAYS it is “complementary” and as long as it definitely ISN’T “Allopathic” – is…. mind-boggling.

]]> By: nash http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-future-of.html#comment-6080 nash Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:40:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-the-future-of-regulated-alternative-medicine.html#comment-6080 I used to be into Astrology. That there is a difference between "Eastern" and "Western" interruptions of what effect the planets have on us was one of the things that led me to realise it was shite. <br/><br/>This talk is another of the Altie cannards. "Western" = bad, "Eastern" = good.<br/><br/>In a 3 hour talk, you would not be able to convey enough information across for the audience to draw up a horoscope. I reckon it will be along the lines of "if they are this sign, then they will be prone to respiratory diseases, poor lungs etc ", rather than if a person works in a dusty environment, regardless of star sign, they will be prone to repiratory illnesses.<br/><br/>The chinese system is different to the western system in that it uses less consellations and their zodiac is named after the twelve animals, instead of the names we use. Also their zodiac is measured using the position of Jupiter, instead of the position of the sun the western system uses. This means that the dates are different. But where they interlap, for instance in the sign of Leo and the Sheep, then the characteristics of a Sheep and a Leo are opposed. Which is right? West or East? The right answer is that both are bollocks.<br/><br/>Maybe I will go for the easy money and do talks on Indian, Arabic and Babylonian systems to alties. I used to be into Astrology. That there is a difference between “Eastern” and “Western” interruptions of what effect the planets have on us was one of the things that led me to realise it was shite.

This talk is another of the Altie cannards. “Western” = bad, “Eastern” = good.

In a 3 hour talk, you would not be able to convey enough information across for the audience to draw up a horoscope. I reckon it will be along the lines of “if they are this sign, then they will be prone to respiratory diseases, poor lungs etc “, rather than if a person works in a dusty environment, regardless of star sign, they will be prone to repiratory illnesses.

The chinese system is different to the western system in that it uses less consellations and their zodiac is named after the twelve animals, instead of the names we use. Also their zodiac is measured using the position of Jupiter, instead of the position of the sun the western system uses. This means that the dates are different. But where they interlap, for instance in the sign of Leo and the Sheep, then the characteristics of a Sheep and a Leo are opposed. Which is right? West or East? The right answer is that both are bollocks.

Maybe I will go for the easy money and do talks on Indian, Arabic and Babylonian systems to alties.

]]> By: gimpyblog http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-future-of.html#comment-6075 gimpyblog Wed, 09 Apr 2008 07:42:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/04/medical-astrology-forseeing-the-future-of-regulated-alternative-medicine.html#comment-6075 Yes, they truly are dangerously ignorant and dumb. Don't forget that they offer <a HREF="http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2008/03/17/hilary-fairclough-and-aids-idiocy-again/" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">AIDS quackery</a> as part of their CPD as well. Yes, they truly are dangerously ignorant and dumb. Don’t forget that they offer AIDS quackery as part of their CPD as well.

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