Comments on: How to become a Daytime TV Expert: The Jayney Goddard Story http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/05/how-to-become-daytime-tv-expert-jayney.html Experiments and Thoughts on Quackery, Health Beliefs and Pseudoscience Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:47:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Quacks Denounce ASA as Incompetent and Threatening | The Quackometer http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/05/how-to-become-daytime-tv-expert-jayney.html#comment-15343 Quacks Denounce ASA as Incompetent and Threatening | The Quackometer Wed, 03 Aug 2011 12:15:24 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/05/how-to-become-a-daytime-tv-expert-the-jayney-goddard-story.html#comment-15343 [...] first the leaked email. From Jayney Goddard. Much of it speaks for itself. The ASA Meeting of Friday 29th [...] [...] first the leaked email. From Jayney Goddard. Much of it speaks for itself. The ASA Meeting of Friday 29th [...]

]]> By: The Advertising Standards Authority Seeks to Destroy Complementary Medicine–Apparently | The Quackometer http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/05/how-to-become-daytime-tv-expert-jayney.html#comment-15253 The Advertising Standards Authority Seeks to Destroy Complementary Medicine–Apparently | The Quackometer Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:24:56 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/05/how-to-become-a-daytime-tv-expert-the-jayney-goddard-story.html#comment-15253 [...] It may be worth – just for the fun of it – going back a few years to when I first wrote about Jayney Goddard. [...] [...] It may be worth – just for the fun of it – going back a few years to when I first wrote about Jayney Goddard. [...]

]]> By: Le Canard Noir http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/05/how-to-become-daytime-tv-expert-jayney.html#comment-6408 Le Canard Noir Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:12:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/05/how-to-become-a-daytime-tv-expert-the-jayney-goddard-story.html#comment-6408 le canard blanc - I have no idea what you are talking about. Basic etiquette on the net - stick to the subject of the post. I reserve the right to delete comments that cannot follow simple good manners. le canard blanc – I have no idea what you are talking about. Basic etiquette on the net – stick to the subject of the post. I reserve the right to delete comments that cannot follow simple good manners.

]]> By: le canard blanc http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/05/how-to-become-daytime-tv-expert-jayney.html#comment-6407 le canard blanc Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:54:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/05/how-to-become-a-daytime-tv-expert-the-jayney-goddard-story.html#comment-6407 I am delighted that at herbalism is accepted by Le Canard Noir. That at least is a step in the right direction because I have seen one drop doses of herbal mother tinctures cure many serious illnesses. How can one tiny drop of a herb be so powerful? Answer because it is the energy of the plant that heals not the substance. This is the same with homeopathy it is the energy of the plant or mineral that heals. Dilution alone does not work, the substance has to be succussed to energise it.<br/><br/>Now I have a question for you. If homeopathy has no reaction on the body why do surgeons in the hospitals advise not to give homeopathic Arnica before operations? <br/><br/>Curious about this myself I asked a friend of mine who is a theatre nurse why no Arnica pre op? Her reply was that it thins the blood too much and makes it hard work for the surgeons to stop the bleeding. As homeopathic Arnica is brilliant for dispersing blood clots it makes sense not to take it before surgery. However it is magic in the 200c dilution after surgery for healing. My homeopath gave my son some after a car accident and he amazed the doctors by the speed at which he healed. Massive bruises disappeared virtually overnight. I never go out without a tub of Arnica in my handbag for emergencies. I am delighted that at herbalism is accepted by Le Canard Noir. That at least is a step in the right direction because I have seen one drop doses of herbal mother tinctures cure many serious illnesses. How can one tiny drop of a herb be so powerful? Answer because it is the energy of the plant that heals not the substance. This is the same with homeopathy it is the energy of the plant or mineral that heals. Dilution alone does not work, the substance has to be succussed to energise it.

Now I have a question for you. If homeopathy has no reaction on the body why do surgeons in the hospitals advise not to give homeopathic Arnica before operations?

Curious about this myself I asked a friend of mine who is a theatre nurse why no Arnica pre op? Her reply was that it thins the blood too much and makes it hard work for the surgeons to stop the bleeding. As homeopathic Arnica is brilliant for dispersing blood clots it makes sense not to take it before surgery. However it is magic in the 200c dilution after surgery for healing. My homeopath gave my son some after a car accident and he amazed the doctors by the speed at which he healed. Massive bruises disappeared virtually overnight. I never go out without a tub of Arnica in my handbag for emergencies.

]]> By: Stephen http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/05/how-to-become-daytime-tv-expert-jayney.html#comment-6374 Stephen Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:08:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/05/how-to-become-a-daytime-tv-expert-the-jayney-goddard-story.html#comment-6374 @bob"Well, I can believe giving children in developing countries clean water will lead to shorter periods of diarrhoea."<br/><br/>Good idea, but the problem is they're giving sugar pills so there's a good chance they're washed down with not very clean water, or just chewed:<br/><br/>"Showing his own biases, the paper did not discuss the possibility that homeopathy could not work, but rather that the homeopathic pills had been stored incorrectly and so on." @bob”Well, I can believe giving children in developing countries clean water will lead to shorter periods of diarrhoea.”

Good idea, but the problem is they’re giving sugar pills so there’s a good chance they’re washed down with not very clean water, or just chewed:

“Showing his own biases, the paper did not discuss the possibility that homeopathy could not work, but rather that the homeopathic pills had been stored incorrectly and so on.”

]]> By: Cynical OT http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/05/how-to-become-daytime-tv-expert-jayney.html#comment-6275 Cynical OT Fri, 23 May 2008 19:09:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/05/how-to-become-a-daytime-tv-expert-the-jayney-goddard-story.html#comment-6275 Bi-aura.com have overhauled Ms Goddard's bio on their site. No mention of Imperial College at all.<br/>Bingo. Bi-aura.com have overhauled Ms Goddard’s bio on their site. No mention of Imperial College at all.
Bingo.

]]> By: Cynical OT http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/05/how-to-become-daytime-tv-expert-jayney.html#comment-6271 Cynical OT Tue, 20 May 2008 17:59:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/05/how-to-become-a-daytime-tv-expert-the-jayney-goddard-story.html#comment-6271 I have contacted bi-aura.com who list Ms Goddard as "having studied for five years" etc. Reply from Lynne, who says "We will make the relevant enquiries and take any necessary steps". I will wait and see... I have contacted bi-aura.com who list Ms Goddard as “having studied for five years” etc. Reply from Lynne, who says “We will make the relevant enquiries and take any necessary steps”. I will wait and see…

]]> By: pvandck http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/05/how-to-become-daytime-tv-expert-jayney.html#comment-6270 pvandck Sat, 17 May 2008 21:59:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/05/how-to-become-a-daytime-tv-expert-the-jayney-goddard-story.html#comment-6270 Ms Goddard seems, to my poorly trained eye, to be a fairly typical con artist. I should add that all CAM, for what it's worth, seems to have its roots firmly planted in the desire to con. The reason con artists are successful is because they seem to be so <i>reasonable</i>. <br/>I am thinking, why do people like Ms Goddard, Pilltrick and the like feel the need to resort to misleading information so often - if they aren't deliberately hiding something? The Imperial College reference is so obviously intended to deceive. Surely one would know where one studied, and with whom the institute is or isn't affiliated. And this sort of thing happens on a depressingly repetitive basis (like all the time). <br/>Personally I think these people are disgusting in the way child abusers are disgusting - they take advantage of people's vulnerabilities for personal gain and status. And they appear, not for a single moment, to think there might be anything wrong with what they're doing. My own view is that, for the most part, they do know exactly what they're doing. Ms Goddard certainly demonstrated she knew what she was doing when she sent out her email rallying support, and the subsequent gloating. It true con artist style, it;s an act. She's aware in the way that the most cynical and exploitative people are. Ms Goddard seems, to my poorly trained eye, to be a fairly typical con artist. I should add that all CAM, for what it’s worth, seems to have its roots firmly planted in the desire to con. The reason con artists are successful is because they seem to be so reasonable.
I am thinking, why do people like Ms Goddard, Pilltrick and the like feel the need to resort to misleading information so often – if they aren’t deliberately hiding something? The Imperial College reference is so obviously intended to deceive. Surely one would know where one studied, and with whom the institute is or isn’t affiliated. And this sort of thing happens on a depressingly repetitive basis (like all the time).
Personally I think these people are disgusting in the way child abusers are disgusting – they take advantage of people’s vulnerabilities for personal gain and status. And they appear, not for a single moment, to think there might be anything wrong with what they’re doing. My own view is that, for the most part, they do know exactly what they’re doing. Ms Goddard certainly demonstrated she knew what she was doing when she sent out her email rallying support, and the subsequent gloating. It true con artist style, it;s an act. She’s aware in the way that the most cynical and exploitative people are.

]]> By: ukdietitian http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/05/how-to-become-daytime-tv-expert-jayney.html#comment-6269 ukdietitian Sat, 17 May 2008 11:04:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/05/how-to-become-a-daytime-tv-expert-the-jayney-goddard-story.html#comment-6269 Dr Aust says<br/>"I think we should be calling this woman "Professor" Goddard, cf. "Dr" McKeith. She is not a Professor as far as I'm concerned if she only has some kind of bogus Honorary Professorship"<br/><br/>no, no, and no. The public have an attention span of a gnat. Hearing the title repeated just re-inforces it to them - the sarcasm is lost. <br/>Better call her 'Ms' Goddard - it can often generate a debate of its own, and useful to get the point across that Prof-she-aint.<br/><br/>and to le canard blanc<br/><br/>yes, Mary Seacole is on record as using herbs - they were the fore-runners of modern medicines. Not a comment on this site has denigrated herbal therapy - but homeopathic remedies (although both beginning with 'H') are a totally different ballgame. By homeopathic admission, contain an extract of an active ingredient so dilute that not a single molecule of the original remains in the final solution. <br/>With homeopathy, its akin to having a drink of water and claiming to cure aids, cancer, etc... Dr Aust says
“I think we should be calling this woman “Professor” Goddard, cf. “Dr” McKeith. She is not a Professor as far as I’m concerned if she only has some kind of bogus Honorary Professorship”

no, no, and no. The public have an attention span of a gnat. Hearing the title repeated just re-inforces it to them – the sarcasm is lost.
Better call her ‘Ms’ Goddard – it can often generate a debate of its own, and useful to get the point across that Prof-she-aint.

and to le canard blanc

yes, Mary Seacole is on record as using herbs – they were the fore-runners of modern medicines. Not a comment on this site has denigrated herbal therapy – but homeopathic remedies (although both beginning with ‘H’) are a totally different ballgame. By homeopathic admission, contain an extract of an active ingredient so dilute that not a single molecule of the original remains in the final solution.
With homeopathy, its akin to having a drink of water and claiming to cure aids, cancer, etc…

]]> By: The Defective Brain http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/05/how-to-become-daytime-tv-expert-jayney.html#comment-6267 The Defective Brain Fri, 16 May 2008 15:11:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2008/05/how-to-become-a-daytime-tv-expert-the-jayney-goddard-story.html#comment-6267 Imperial college has now contacted the Homeopathy websites referencing them, and asked them to take down any references to Imperial college.<br/>Also, There is no record of Janey Goddard ever studying at Imperial, and claims she studied at a homeopathy college that was based there. Ther has never been any Homeopathy college based at Imperial College. <br/>The source of this confusion could be that Homeopathic colleges on occasion rent out seminar rooms at Imperial College campuses. However, the Imperial College teaching Faculty has no association with them, and as such claims of an association are invalid.<br/>It is astounding that Janey Goddard made these claims, considering that Simon Singh actually IS an alumnus of imperial college.<br/>Imperial college is also having the same problems with the London College of Clinical Hypnosis, which also books out seminar rooms in a similar way, and have members who also make outrageous claims. Imperial college has now contacted the Homeopathy websites referencing them, and asked them to take down any references to Imperial college.
Also, There is no record of Janey Goddard ever studying at Imperial, and claims she studied at a homeopathy college that was based there. Ther has never been any Homeopathy college based at Imperial College.
The source of this confusion could be that Homeopathic colleges on occasion rent out seminar rooms at Imperial College campuses. However, the Imperial College teaching Faculty has no association with them, and as such claims of an association are invalid.
It is astounding that Janey Goddard made these claims, considering that Simon Singh actually IS an alumnus of imperial college.
Imperial college is also having the same problems with the London College of Clinical Hypnosis, which also books out seminar rooms in a similar way, and have members who also make outrageous claims.

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