Comments on: Fraud In Chinese Medicine http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html Experiments and Thoughts on Quackery, Health Beliefs and Pseudoscience Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:52:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Le Canard Noir http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7965 Le Canard Noir Mon, 11 May 2009 16:56:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7965 Anonymous - how does this ensure you have a safe level of active ingredients and minimum amounts of unwanted ingredients? The chemicals in herbs can vary greatly depending on which bit you use and when they were harvested. Anonymous – how does this ensure you have a safe level of active ingredients and minimum amounts of unwanted ingredients? The chemicals in herbs can vary greatly depending on which bit you use and when they were harvested.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7964 Anonymous Mon, 11 May 2009 16:49:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7964 Real traditional herbal medicine is best acquired in an unprocessed<br />manner. The raw herbs are mixed together in a receptacle in front of you. Instructions for the preparation, i.e. boiling making a tea, etc. should also be provided by a well trained Herbalist. Real traditional herbal medicine is best acquired in an unprocessed
manner. The raw herbs are mixed together in a receptacle in front of you. Instructions for the preparation, i.e. boiling making a tea, etc. should also be provided by a well trained Herbalist.

]]> By: John H http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7754 John H Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:18:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7754 Janet - what a fantastic post.<br/><br/>"I only realised there was something wrong with the quack herbal medicine when it worked within 3 days. I wasn't expecting anything to happen (as usual) so it was clearly adulterated. It shouldn't be allowed".<br/><br/>As ever it is becoming increasingly difficult to take the piss out of this stuff. Janet – what a fantastic post.

“I only realised there was something wrong with the quack herbal medicine when it worked within 3 days. I wasn’t expecting anything to happen (as usual) so it was clearly adulterated. It shouldn’t be allowed”.

As ever it is becoming increasingly difficult to take the piss out of this stuff.

]]> By: Janet http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7753 Janet Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:48:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7753 It's not just the Chinese who adulterate their medicines. I was mildly amused, in a sad sort of way, by a recent alert issued by the MHRA regarding unlicenced eczema creams containing steroids:<br/>http://www.mhra.gov.uk/Howweregulate/Medicines/Herbalandhomoeopathicmedicines/Herbalmedicines/HerbalSafetyNews/Currentsafetyissues/CON041331<br/><br/>The most recent episode was uncovered because some cream worked when a parent obviously didn't expect it to ... <br/><br/>"The latest case was brought to our attention by a parent who became concerned when the cream, which he was assured only contained natural ingredients from India, cleared his son's eczema within 3 days." It’s not just the Chinese who adulterate their medicines. I was mildly amused, in a sad sort of way, by a recent alert issued by the MHRA regarding unlicenced eczema creams containing steroids:
http://www.mhra.gov.uk/Howweregulate/Medicines/Herbalandhomoeopathicmedicines/Herbalmedicines/HerbalSafetyNews/Currentsafetyissues/CON041331

The most recent episode was uncovered because some cream worked when a parent obviously didn’t expect it to …

“The latest case was brought to our attention by a parent who became concerned when the cream, which he was assured only contained natural ingredients from India, cleared his son’s eczema within 3 days.”

]]> By: Bob Calder http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7749 Bob Calder Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7749 Could it be bound up with the lack of affordable health insurance for Chinese citizens?<br/><br/>For some reason people don't consider the fact that there is no universal health care in China. Could it be bound up with the lack of affordable health insurance for Chinese citizens?

For some reason people don’t consider the fact that there is no universal health care in China.

]]> By: Stuart van Onselen http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7746 Stuart van Onselen Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:51:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7746 In fairness to the purveyors of poison, they may not even be aware that their site is trying to infect your machine. A common tactic of malware distributors is to hack someone else's site, not change it visibly, but add the hidden malware-downloading function. This has happened to several very respectable (yet poorly-secured) sites in the past.<br/><br/>"Never attribute to malice what can as easily be ascribed to incompetence." - Anon<br/><br/>Of course, you certainly can't discount the possibility of malice in this particular case, given that the site belongs to an organisation which is already known to lack any scruples. In fairness to the purveyors of poison, they may not even be aware that their site is trying to infect your machine. A common tactic of malware distributors is to hack someone else’s site, not change it visibly, but add the hidden malware-downloading function. This has happened to several very respectable (yet poorly-secured) sites in the past.

“Never attribute to malice what can as easily be ascribed to incompetence.” – Anon

Of course, you certainly can’t discount the possibility of malice in this particular case, given that the site belongs to an organisation which is already known to lack any scruples.

]]> By: SVETLANA PERTSOVICH http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7740 SVETLANA PERTSOVICH Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:05:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7740 Aha!<br/>And it is some answer of life to my first comment above:<br/>http://vz.ru/news/2009/4/9/274291.html<br/>http://www.k2kapital.com/news/fin/576679.html<br/>(Sorry, text in Russian. But translator in Internet is free and on-line!)<br/>Sanitary Control of Russian Federation has forbidden to use on the territory of Russia the plant composition for aromatization of air, which contains poisonous, narcotic and psychotropic substances (Salvia divinorum, Argyreia nervosa, Nymphaea caerulea) and is dangerous for human. The composition is being produced in United Kingdom and other European countries and sold under trade names - AM-HI-CO, Dream, Spice (Gold, Diamond), Zoom, Ex-ses, Pep Spice, Yucatan Fire. <br/>Be careful - the thing came from you.<br/>And I repeat - all quack remedies require to test for undeclared and illegal ingredients! Aha!
And it is some answer of life to my first comment above:
http://vz.ru/news/2009/4/9/274291.html
http://www.k2kapital.com/news/fin/576679.html
(Sorry, text in Russian. But translator in Internet is free and on-line!)
Sanitary Control of Russian Federation has forbidden to use on the territory of Russia the plant composition for aromatization of air, which contains poisonous, narcotic and psychotropic substances (Salvia divinorum, Argyreia nervosa, Nymphaea caerulea) and is dangerous for human. The composition is being produced in United Kingdom and other European countries and sold under trade names – AM-HI-CO, Dream, Spice (Gold, Diamond), Zoom, Ex-ses, Pep Spice, Yucatan Fire.
Be careful – the thing came from you.
And I repeat – all quack remedies require to test for undeclared and illegal ingredients!

]]> By: Claire http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7738 Claire Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:26:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7738 Adulteration of Chinese herbal slimming supplements <a HREF="http://www.news-medical.net/?id=48136" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">currently a concern in Germany</a> Adulteration of Chinese herbal slimming supplements currently a concern in Germany

]]> By: Warhelmet http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7737 Warhelmet Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:52:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7737 BillyJoe - Sorry, should be "them thar stock". BillyJoe – Sorry, should be “them thar stock”.

]]> By: Warhelmet http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7735 Warhelmet Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:51:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/fraud-in-chinese-medicine.html#comment-7735 Thanks for the tip-off. I'll do rounds of the local TCM shops, buy up all their stock and sell it all at the local gay bar. Thanks for the tip-off. I’ll do rounds of the local TCM shops, buy up all their stock and sell it all at the local gay bar.

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