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	<title>Comments on: Homeopathy Does Not Cause Side Effects in Cancer Patients</title>
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		<title>By: Dr Fostes</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/homeopathy-does-not-cause-side-effects.html#comment-8038</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Fostes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 06:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dotn belive it. my one of friend suffering from cancer got fully recovered only by homeopathy medicnes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dotn belive it. my one of friend suffering from cancer got fully recovered only by homeopathy medicnes.</p>
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		<title>By: Neuroskeptic</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/homeopathy-does-not-cause-side-effects.html#comment-7803</link>
		<dc:creator>Neuroskeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I emailed the authors of the review and they responded saying why they included the Pommier paper: &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://neuroskeptic.blogspot.com/2009/04/more-on-that-homeopathy-analysis.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;see my post here.&lt;/a&gt;In a nutshell, they say that since the ointment was prepared in accordance with the German Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia, they considered it to be homeopathic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I emailed the authors of the review and they responded saying why they included the Pommier paper: <a HREF="http://neuroskeptic.blogspot.com/2009/04/more-on-that-homeopathy-analysis.html" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">see my post here.</a>In a nutshell, they say that since the ointment was prepared in accordance with the German Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia, they considered it to be homeopathic.</p>
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		<title>By: Mojo</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/homeopathy-does-not-cause-side-effects.html#comment-7802</link>
		<dc:creator>Mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It was essentially written by the Royal London Homeopathic Hospital - an institution under considerable threat and therefore, with a huge vested interest in generating good publicity.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It can perhaps also be looked at in the context of the concept of &quot;integrated medicine&quot;.  Responsible homoeopaths do not claim that homoeopathy can cure cancer or AIDS, but they like to suggest that it can be used as a palliative (of course, this contradicts their claim that homoeopathy addresses the causes of disease while medicine only treats symptoms) or to relieve the side-effects of chemotherapy (thus neatly raising the fact that effective treatments have side-effects).  This enables homoeopaths to claim that homoeopathy &quot;can help&quot; with cancer/&quot;be used to treat&quot; cancer patients etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It was essentially written by the Royal London Homeopathic Hospital &#8211; an institution under considerable threat and therefore, with a huge vested interest in generating good publicity.&#8221;</p>
<p>It can perhaps also be looked at in the context of the concept of &#8220;integrated medicine&#8221;.  Responsible homoeopaths do not claim that homoeopathy can cure cancer or AIDS, but they like to suggest that it can be used as a palliative (of course, this contradicts their claim that homoeopathy addresses the causes of disease while medicine only treats symptoms) or to relieve the side-effects of chemotherapy (thus neatly raising the fact that effective treatments have side-effects).  This enables homoeopaths to claim that homoeopathy &#8220;can help&#8221; with cancer/&#8221;be used to treat&#8221; cancer patients etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Lemonade Lily</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/homeopathy-does-not-cause-side-effects.html#comment-7801</link>
		<dc:creator>Lemonade Lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LCN - I have complained to Beeb about their presentation of this paper. I would also like to complain to Cochrane. Is there a way to do that as an insignificant member of public? Shouldn&#039;t this have been peer reviewed and homeopathic spin removed before publication?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LCN &#8211; I have complained to Beeb about their presentation of this paper. I would also like to complain to Cochrane. Is there a way to do that as an insignificant member of public? Shouldn&#8217;t this have been peer reviewed and homeopathic spin removed before publication?</p>
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		<title>By: Neuroskeptic</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/homeopathy-does-not-cause-side-effects.html#comment-7799</link>
		<dc:creator>Neuroskeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dayoff: Certainly. When I make a cup of tea, I prepare a weak solution of about 2.5 g of tea in (roughly) 250 g of water, or 1% by weight. And I only give it a couple of mintutes to dissolve. But the result is still tea, not water. If I did the same thing with ethanol/water, I&#039;d get even more of the active ingredients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dayoff: Certainly. When I make a cup of tea, I prepare a weak solution of about 2.5 g of tea in (roughly) 250 g of water, or 1% by weight. And I only give it a couple of mintutes to dissolve. But the result is still tea, not water. If I did the same thing with ethanol/water, I&#8217;d get even more of the active ingredients.</p>
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		<title>By: Dayoff</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/homeopathy-does-not-cause-side-effects.html#comment-7797</link>
		<dc:creator>Dayoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assuming the formula below (pasted from Neuroskeptics blog) is the one used in the trial.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Consider the most concentrated &#039;actives&#039; Calendula and Hamamelis&lt;br /&gt;in D1 potency. Note that only 1.326g of the D1 potency was added.&lt;br /&gt;eg for 100g we in effect have only 0.1326g of both Calendula and Hamamelis plant added.&lt;br /&gt;At 0.132% this is nearer to the D3 potency or more exactly around 1 part per 750. &lt;br /&gt;Note also that the original Mother tincture is an Ethanol/Water extract that is unlikely to extract all &#039;active ingredients&#039; in the plant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Would we therefore expect clinical effects from Traumeel S at these concentrations bearing in mind that any Polysaccharides, glycosides ect would be expected in concentrations in the Traumeel S product in parts per million or 10s of parts per million?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At these levels the &#039;actives&#039; are close to possible levels of impurities in the Ph Eur water used as an excipient. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;100 g contains: Arnica montana, radix D3, 4.416g; Calendula officinalis D1, Hamamelis virginiana D1, 1.326g each; Bellis perennis D1, Hypericum perforatum D3, 0.295g; Millefolium D1, 0.265 g; Symphytum officinale D4, 0.295g; Aconitum napellus D3, Belladonna D3, 0.147g each; Hepar sulphuris calcareum D6, 0.074g; Chamomilla D1, Echinacea angustifolia D1, Echinacea purpurea D1, 0.442g each.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assuming the formula below (pasted from Neuroskeptics blog) is the one used in the trial.</p>
<p>Consider the most concentrated &#8216;actives&#8217; Calendula and Hamamelis<br />in D1 potency. Note that only 1.326g of the D1 potency was added.<br />eg for 100g we in effect have only 0.1326g of both Calendula and Hamamelis plant added.<br />At 0.132% this is nearer to the D3 potency or more exactly around 1 part per 750. <br />Note also that the original Mother tincture is an Ethanol/Water extract that is unlikely to extract all &#8216;active ingredients&#8217; in the plant.</p>
<p>Would we therefore expect clinical effects from Traumeel S at these concentrations bearing in mind that any Polysaccharides, glycosides ect would be expected in concentrations in the Traumeel S product in parts per million or 10s of parts per million?</p>
<p>At these levels the &#8216;actives&#8217; are close to possible levels of impurities in the Ph Eur water used as an excipient. </p>
<p>100 g contains: Arnica montana, radix D3, 4.416g; Calendula officinalis D1, Hamamelis virginiana D1, 1.326g each; Bellis perennis D1, Hypericum perforatum D3, 0.295g; Millefolium D1, 0.265 g; Symphytum officinale D4, 0.295g; Aconitum napellus D3, Belladonna D3, 0.147g each; Hepar sulphuris calcareum D6, 0.074g; Chamomilla D1, Echinacea angustifolia D1, Echinacea purpurea D1, 0.442g each.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/homeopathy-does-not-cause-side-effects.html#comment-7796</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve covered this on the Cancer Research UK blog:&lt;br /&gt;http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2009/04/17/no-convincing-evidence-that-homeopathy-can-help-with-cancer-treatment-side-effects/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s certainly disappointing that the headlines have focused on the positive spin rather than the actual story, which is &quot;it doesn&#039; work&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve covered this on the Cancer Research UK blog:<br /><a href="http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2009/04/17/no-convincing-evidence-that-homeopathy-can-help-with-cancer-treatment-side-effects/" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2009/04/17/no-convincing-evidence-that-homeopathy-can-help-with-cancer-treatment-side-effects/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s certainly disappointing that the headlines have focused on the positive spin rather than the actual story, which is &#8220;it doesn&#8217; work&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Le Canard Noir</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/homeopathy-does-not-cause-side-effects.html#comment-7793</link>
		<dc:creator>Le Canard Noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I look at this Cochrane report, the more I think it stinks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was essentially written by the Royal London Homeopathic Hospitital - an institution under considerable threat and therefore, with a huge vested interest in generating good publicity. SO, pick a cochrane review that is bound to work - &quot;homeopathy does not cause side effects in cancer patients&quot; - no one would dispute this - and let the inevitable positive headlines ensue. Throw in some distinctly un-homeopathic like treatments and you can show some side benefits of &#039;homeopathy&#039; maybe working.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the point is, that these &#039;working&#039; treatments are most unlike what goes on in the RLHH. Headlines like the BBC &quot;Homeopathy &#039;eases cancer therapy&#039;&quot; must be a godsend because it makes it look like the &lt;i&gt;system&lt;/i&gt; of homeopathy actually works when this reviews quite clearly shows that there is no evidence for this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is this deliberate manipulation? I would have to conclude that Cochrane have been subverted here for vested interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I look at this Cochrane report, the more I think it stinks.</p>
<p>It was essentially written by the Royal London Homeopathic Hospitital &#8211; an institution under considerable threat and therefore, with a huge vested interest in generating good publicity. SO, pick a cochrane review that is bound to work &#8211; &#8220;homeopathy does not cause side effects in cancer patients&#8221; &#8211; no one would dispute this &#8211; and let the inevitable positive headlines ensue. Throw in some distinctly un-homeopathic like treatments and you can show some side benefits of &#8216;homeopathy&#8217; maybe working.</p>
<p>But the point is, that these &#8216;working&#8217; treatments are most unlike what goes on in the RLHH. Headlines like the BBC &#8220;Homeopathy &#8216;eases cancer therapy&#8217;&#8221; must be a godsend because it makes it look like the <i>system</i> of homeopathy actually works when this reviews quite clearly shows that there is no evidence for this.</p>
<p>Is this deliberate manipulation? I would have to conclude that Cochrane have been subverted here for vested interests.</p>
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		<title>By: Mojo</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/homeopathy-does-not-cause-side-effects.html#comment-7792</link>
		<dc:creator>Mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homeopaths rarely seem to concern themselves with the concentration of the MT - all that seems to matter is the number of times the preparation has been diluted and shaken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homeopaths rarely seem to concern themselves with the concentration of the MT &#8211; all that seems to matter is the number of times the preparation has been diluted and shaken.</p>
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		<title>By: Neuroskeptic</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/homeopathy-does-not-cause-side-effects.html#comment-7791</link>
		<dc:creator>Neuroskeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh, good use of Google there. I tried and failed to find Boiron&#039;s English website.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Their &quot;Calendula lotion&quot; is described as being &quot;Calendula officinalis MT HPUS 10%&quot;. I presume that &quot;MT&quot; stands for &quot;mother tincture&quot;, meaning undiluted alcoholic solution in homeopathic terminology. Presumably that would make the 1x a 1/10 dilution of that... so still pretty strong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, good use of Google there. I tried and failed to find Boiron&#8217;s English website.</p>
<p>Their &#8220;Calendula lotion&#8221; is described as being &#8220;Calendula officinalis MT HPUS 10%&#8221;. I presume that &#8220;MT&#8221; stands for &#8220;mother tincture&#8221;, meaning undiluted alcoholic solution in homeopathic terminology. Presumably that would make the 1x a 1/10 dilution of that&#8230; so still pretty strong.</p>
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