Comments on: The Modern Face of Scientific Homeopathy http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html Experiments and Thoughts on Quackery, Health Beliefs and Pseudoscience Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:47:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: The Futility of Finding Physical Explanations for Homeopathy | The Quackometer http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-12575 The Futility of Finding Physical Explanations for Homeopathy | The Quackometer Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:29:03 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/the-modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-12575 [...] Homeopaths will quite rightly at this point point out that remedy preparation is not just about repeated dilution – it is also about succussion, the repeated banging and shaking of the remedy between dilutions. Traditionally, this has to be done on a leather Bible.  [...] [...] Homeopaths will quite rightly at this point point out that remedy preparation is not just about repeated dilution – it is also about succussion, the repeated banging and shaking of the remedy between dilutions. Traditionally, this has to be done on a leather Bible.  [...]

]]> By: Gretawilliams http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-11525 Gretawilliams Fri, 23 Apr 2010 11:25:51 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/the-modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-11525 Could somebody please explain the placebo effect to me.Why does it only work with homeopathy?Should I be able to have a placebo effect with medication from my doctor for migraines? Could somebody please explain the placebo effect to me.Why does it only work with homeopathy?Should I be able to have a placebo effect with medication from my doctor for migraines?

]]> By: Antares http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-10650 Antares Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:31:52 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/the-modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-10650 Woah, wowowo... Use some linebreaks and go easy on the caps lock. Maybe I will even read your rant. Woah, wowowo… Use some linebreaks and go easy on the caps lock. Maybe I will even read your rant.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-8455 Anonymous Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:47:07 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/the-modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-8455 I would like to ask you all people who are against homoeopathy that if you say if there is no medicine or whatever in homeopathy then just prove that why homeopaths across the world are getting good results in many incuarable conditions and if you say that is all psychological then why in small children may be in infants also HOMEOPATHS GETS RESULTS and if you still say that it is placebo effect then why modern medicine people are not able to give the same effect with placebos.Rather I will say thats the SAFEST THING IN THE WORLD WITHOUT GIVING ANY ACTUAL MEDICINE HOMEOPATHS AND ALL OTHER HEALTH PROFESSIONALS CAN TREAT THE PATIENTS AND AVOID THE MAJOR SIDEEFFECTS WHICH EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT MODERN MEDICINES CAN CAUSE.If you have answer to it please give me that.ANYWAYS I KNOW THAT YOU MUST NOT BE HAVING ANY ANSWER AS YOU PEOPLE LOVES TO LIVE BLIND LIFE. ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST IT ARE LIKE PEOPLE WHO USED TO SAY THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO EXPLORE THE SPACE WITH THE SPACESHIPS.YOU WILL ALWAYS TRY TO PROVE THAT HOW OTHER SYSTEMS ARE USELESS THAN TRYING TO PROVE THAT HOW CONVENTIONAL SYSTEMS ARE GOOD. I would like to ask you all people who are against homoeopathy that if you say if there is no medicine or whatever in homeopathy then just prove that why homeopaths across the world are getting good results in many incuarable conditions and if you say that is all psychological then why in small children may be in infants also HOMEOPATHS GETS RESULTS and if you still say that it is placebo effect then why modern medicine people are not able to give the same effect with placebos.Rather I will say thats the SAFEST THING IN THE WORLD WITHOUT GIVING ANY ACTUAL MEDICINE HOMEOPATHS AND ALL OTHER HEALTH PROFESSIONALS CAN TREAT THE PATIENTS AND AVOID THE MAJOR SIDEEFFECTS WHICH EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT MODERN MEDICINES CAN CAUSE.If you have answer to it please give me that.ANYWAYS I KNOW THAT YOU MUST NOT BE HAVING ANY ANSWER AS YOU PEOPLE LOVES TO LIVE BLIND LIFE. ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST IT ARE LIKE PEOPLE WHO USED TO SAY THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO EXPLORE THE SPACE WITH THE SPACESHIPS.YOU WILL ALWAYS TRY TO PROVE THAT HOW OTHER SYSTEMS ARE USELESS THAN TRYING TO PROVE THAT HOW CONVENTIONAL SYSTEMS ARE GOOD.

]]> By: Peter Rue MRPharmS http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-7987 Peter Rue MRPharmS Thu, 14 May 2009 21:21:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/the-modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-7987 Sorry for the delayed response but I have to defend pharmacists. I doubt that there are many who believe homeopathy is an effective therapy. In any profession there are some who will want profit above honesty. Several of the well known quack therapies are supported by medically qualified people (although one wonders how many of the claimed MD's are from recognised medical schools.<br /><br /> I find it rather disturbing that the MHRA has just approved the first homeopathic remady to have labelled indications (and you can just imagine what the spokesman for the manufacturers said about that)and so, in my opinion, it is not only the RPSGB but any organisation that does not state that homeopathy is unproven that is being unethical Sorry for the delayed response but I have to defend pharmacists. I doubt that there are many who believe homeopathy is an effective therapy. In any profession there are some who will want profit above honesty. Several of the well known quack therapies are supported by medically qualified people (although one wonders how many of the claimed MD’s are from recognised medical schools.

I find it rather disturbing that the MHRA has just approved the first homeopathic remady to have labelled indications (and you can just imagine what the spokesman for the manufacturers said about that)and so, in my opinion, it is not only the RPSGB but any organisation that does not state that homeopathy is unproven that is being unethical

]]> By: Sean Ellis http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-7942 Sean Ellis Wed, 06 May 2009 12:48:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/the-modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-7942 I finally got round to watching this last night. An excellent insight into the world of the homeopath, it was too. <br /><br />The painkiller brnad effectiveness experiment was interesting but it would also have been better to randomize the participants into 2 groups, one who took the generic drugs first, and one who took the brand name drugs first. Otherwise, you might instead be showing the effect where your expectations affect the outcome, as exploited by kinesiologists everywhere.<br /><br />But, for a 1 hour TV documentary, not bad at all. I finally got round to watching this last night. An excellent insight into the world of the homeopath, it was too.

The painkiller brnad effectiveness experiment was interesting but it would also have been better to randomize the participants into 2 groups, one who took the generic drugs first, and one who took the brand name drugs first. Otherwise, you might instead be showing the effect where your expectations affect the outcome, as exploited by kinesiologists everywhere.

But, for a 1 hour TV documentary, not bad at all.

]]> By: sebobaso http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-7912 sebobaso Sat, 02 May 2009 19:33:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/the-modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-7912 Any chance this will reach Youtube? Tried a search to no avail :( Any chance this will reach Youtube? Tried a search to no avail :(

]]> By: pvandck http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-7876 pvandck Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:46:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/the-modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-7876 Scuse the typos. And I'm not allowed to do blockquote tags, which is a bit of a bugger. Scuse the typos. And I’m not allowed to do blockquote tags, which is a bit of a bugger.

]]> By: pvandck http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-7875 pvandck Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:30:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/the-modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-7875 If "nothing is sensitive enough to record materials that have such high dilutions", what special techniques to homeopaths have to be able to record the. Or would it be a matter of faith?<br />Mojo, when the authors say <br /><i>Ultramolecular homeopathy had no <b>observable </b>clinical effects</i>we all know the word "observable" will be latched on to by desperate homeopaths and their disciples to confirm that there are clinical effects but they're not observable. And from that we can conclude that homeopathy is an effective treatment for aids - it's just that not observable, which doesn't mean that it isn't effective. <br />Completely barking, the lost of them! If “nothing is sensitive enough to record materials that have such high dilutions”, what special techniques to homeopaths have to be able to record the. Or would it be a matter of faith?
Mojo, when the authors say
Ultramolecular homeopathy had no observable clinical effectswe all know the word “observable” will be latched on to by desperate homeopaths and their disciples to confirm that there are clinical effects but they’re not observable. And from that we can conclude that homeopathy is an effective treatment for aids – it’s just that not observable, which doesn’t mean that it isn’t effective.
Completely barking, the lost of them!

]]> By: Mojo http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-7874 Mojo Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:13:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/the-modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html#comment-7874 I loved the "science hasn't caught up with homoeopathy...nothing is sensitive enough to record materials that have such high dilutions" comment from Pinkus. Of course, that includes the human body, which also <a HREF="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14651731" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">appears</a> to be unable to "record materials that have such high dilutions". I loved the “science hasn’t caught up with homoeopathy…nothing is sensitive enough to record materials that have such high dilutions” comment from Pinkus. Of course, that includes the human body, which also appears to be unable to “record materials that have such high dilutions”.

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