Comments on: Nutritional Therapists Fail to Join Ofquack http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join.html Experiments and Thoughts on Quackery, Health Beliefs and Pseudoscience Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:47:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Which? magazine: “…high street nutritional therapists are a waste of money” http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join.html#comment-17145 Which? magazine: “…high street nutritional therapists are a waste of money” Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:45:05 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join-ofquack.html#comment-17145 [...] but isn’t a regulator Why it is easy to get the incorrect impression that BANT is a regulator Nutritional Therapists Fail to Join Ofquack BANT: A Profile Matthias Rath drops his million pound legal case against me and the [...] [...] but isn’t a regulator Why it is easy to get the incorrect impression that BANT is a regulator Nutritional Therapists Fail to Join Ofquack BANT: A Profile Matthias Rath drops his million pound legal case against me and the [...]

]]> By: BANT: A Profile « Stuff And Nonsense http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join.html#comment-11727 BANT: A Profile « Stuff And Nonsense Tue, 04 May 2010 20:54:46 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join-ofquack.html#comment-11727 [...] of regulation, the Quackometer reported on the failure of CNHC to attract nutritional therapists here in April 2009. Currently, the relevant page on the BANT website tells us that: The British [...] [...] of regulation, the Quackometer reported on the failure of CNHC to attract nutritional therapists here in April 2009. Currently, the relevant page on the BANT website tells us that: The British [...]

]]> By: Amanda Moore http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join.html#comment-8509 Amanda Moore Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:30:49 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join-ofquack.html#comment-8509 I note I receive a mention on your site as an ION practitioner I also have a BSc and am currently studying for an MSc in Nutrition at Kings College London (so would argue that many holding the ION and BANT labels have excellent academic credentials and professional ethics)....however on the subject of the CNHC - before I realised they wouldn't accept my application because of the NTC issue, I filled in the forms and wrote my cheque to the CNHC. Other than getting my neighbour to witness they knew me in the way that they may sign a passport form, there was nothing needed to show any degree of professional practice. Compared to the more exacting requirements of the NTC (in terms of needing to show evidence of professional development courses and that graduates bring their knowledge up to date in areas where their particular course may not have been strong for example) the CNHC were seriously lacking. I feel very strongly about the establishment of recognised professional standards for nutritional therapists and I have little faith that the CNHC are the organisation to do it. I note I receive a mention on your site as an ION practitioner I also have a BSc and am currently studying for an MSc in Nutrition at Kings College London (so would argue that many holding the ION and BANT labels have excellent academic credentials and professional ethics)….however on the subject of the CNHC – before I realised they wouldn't accept my application because of the NTC issue, I filled in the forms and wrote my cheque to the CNHC. Other than getting my neighbour to witness they knew me in the way that they may sign a passport form, there was nothing needed to show any degree of professional practice. Compared to the more exacting requirements of the NTC (in terms of needing to show evidence of professional development courses and that graduates bring their knowledge up to date in areas where their particular course may not have been strong for example) the CNHC were seriously lacking. I feel very strongly about the establishment of recognised professional standards for nutritional therapists and I have little faith that the CNHC are the organisation to do it.

]]> By: Virginia Harry http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join.html#comment-7999 Virginia Harry Fri, 15 May 2009 17:27:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join-ofquack.html#comment-7999 I'd be interested in that answer myself! I’d be interested in that answer myself!

]]> By: Le Canard Noir http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join.html#comment-7997 Le Canard Noir Fri, 15 May 2009 15:29:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join-ofquack.html#comment-7997 Once again. Thank you. Do you know what the CNHC position on this is and why they would wish to accept different standards? Once again. Thank you. Do you know what the CNHC position on this is and why they would wish to accept different standards?

]]> By: NutritionalTherapyCouncil http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join.html#comment-7996 NutritionalTherapyCouncil Fri, 15 May 2009 15:16:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join-ofquack.html#comment-7996 The reason why so few NT's have joined the register is because the Nutritional Therapy Council (NTC) has suspended transfer of registrants to the CNHC register. The NTC was established by several NT Professional Bodies and supported by the DoH to set up independant registration and training accreditation for nutritional therapy. The NTC register was established before the CNHC was launched, and the original intent was to pass the register over, with the permission of the registrants, to the CNHC. We started the process, hence the few NTs on the register, then suspended the transfer due to a number of issues, which we are trying to resolve. <br />Basically the issue relates to the NTC’s wish that all applicants for CNHC registration meet the National Occupational Standard for nutritional therapy, by either having an appropriately accredited qualification, or by going through an assessment scheme which is modelled on the HPC model for experienced practitioners who trained before accredited training courses were available. Applicants are assessed on their portfolio of evidence of training, CPD and case histories which demonstrate safe, effective and lawful practice.<br />The NTC considers that the maintenance of standards in nutritional therapy practice and training is a matter of upmost importance. The reason why so few NT’s have joined the register is because the Nutritional Therapy Council (NTC) has suspended transfer of registrants to the CNHC register. The NTC was established by several NT Professional Bodies and supported by the DoH to set up independant registration and training accreditation for nutritional therapy. The NTC register was established before the CNHC was launched, and the original intent was to pass the register over, with the permission of the registrants, to the CNHC. We started the process, hence the few NTs on the register, then suspended the transfer due to a number of issues, which we are trying to resolve.
Basically the issue relates to the NTC’s wish that all applicants for CNHC registration meet the National Occupational Standard for nutritional therapy, by either having an appropriately accredited qualification, or by going through an assessment scheme which is modelled on the HPC model for experienced practitioners who trained before accredited training courses were available. Applicants are assessed on their portfolio of evidence of training, CPD and case histories which demonstrate safe, effective and lawful practice.
The NTC considers that the maintenance of standards in nutritional therapy practice and training is a matter of upmost importance.

]]> By: Le Canard Noir http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join.html#comment-7986 Le Canard Noir Thu, 14 May 2009 17:36:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join-ofquack.html#comment-7986 Thank you for commenting, Virginia. Perhaps you would like to share your opinions on why so few nutritional therapists are not joining the new regulator? Thank you for commenting, Virginia. Perhaps you would like to share your opinions on why so few nutritional therapists are not joining the new regulator?

]]> By: Virginia Harry DipION http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join.html#comment-7985 Virginia Harry DipION Thu, 14 May 2009 16:44:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join-ofquack.html#comment-7985 I will step into the lion's den and say that, as an ION-trained nutritional therapist, we are not encouraged to recommend supplements and, in fact, many of our tutors don't use them at all for their "customers". There are horror stories about all professions, and there are good and bad practitioners in them all. I think it's very sad that you tar all nutritional therapists with the same brush and have made them all bad. I have seen many people helped, some with just one appointment, with good nutritional advice from ION-trained NTs. I will step into the lion’s den and say that, as an ION-trained nutritional therapist, we are not encouraged to recommend supplements and, in fact, many of our tutors don’t use them at all for their “customers”. There are horror stories about all professions, and there are good and bad practitioners in them all. I think it’s very sad that you tar all nutritional therapists with the same brush and have made them all bad. I have seen many people helped, some with just one appointment, with good nutritional advice from ION-trained NTs.

]]> By: Le Canard Noir http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join.html#comment-7962 Le Canard Noir Mon, 11 May 2009 12:34:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join-ofquack.html#comment-7962 "Whatever we think of the CNHC, a voluntary regulator is better than no regulator at all"<br /><br />I have yet to hear any sound argument that expresses what these benefits are. “Whatever we think of the CNHC, a voluntary regulator is better than no regulator at all”

I have yet to hear any sound argument that expresses what these benefits are.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join.html#comment-7960 Anonymous Mon, 11 May 2009 10:49:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/04/nutritional-therapists-fail-to-join-ofquack.html#comment-7960 Whatever we think of the CNHC, a voluntary regulator is better than no regulator at all, and the govt in their wisdom have decided that complementary therapy does not need compulsory regulation.<br />a little duck told me that the reason why the Nutritional Therapy Council is dragging their heels in joining the CNHC, is because the CNHC want to open the doors to 'nutrition practitioners' who have not met the National Occupational Standard for nutritional therapy that was set by Skills for Health. The NTC have been trying for some time to impose a minimum level of training, to protect the public from unskilled practitioners and from some of the questionable practices mentioned in this and other blogs on the subject. Also on the scene now is private 'regulator' the GRCCT, set up by a breakaway faction from the embryonic CNHC, which seems to be undermining the tax-funded CNHC. see also the FNTP, another breakaway 'nutritionist body' which opposes regulation.<br />One big mess with public safety at risk! Whatever we think of the CNHC, a voluntary regulator is better than no regulator at all, and the govt in their wisdom have decided that complementary therapy does not need compulsory regulation.
a little duck told me that the reason why the Nutritional Therapy Council is dragging their heels in joining the CNHC, is because the CNHC want to open the doors to ‘nutrition practitioners’ who have not met the National Occupational Standard for nutritional therapy that was set by Skills for Health. The NTC have been trying for some time to impose a minimum level of training, to protect the public from unskilled practitioners and from some of the questionable practices mentioned in this and other blogs on the subject. Also on the scene now is private ‘regulator’ the GRCCT, set up by a breakaway faction from the embryonic CNHC, which seems to be undermining the tax-funded CNHC. see also the FNTP, another breakaway ‘nutritionist body’ which opposes regulation.
One big mess with public safety at risk!

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