Comments on: Government bails out Ofquack as it rewrites old press release http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it.html Experiments and Thoughts on Quackery, Health Beliefs and Pseudoscience Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:47:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Margaret Coats to join Zombie Regulator, Ofquack. | The Quackometer http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it.html#comment-15488 Margaret Coats to join Zombie Regulator, Ofquack. | The Quackometer Wed, 10 Aug 2011 08:11:41 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it-rewrites-old-press-release.html#comment-15488 [...] of interest with evidence based care. Or how their members’ database appeared to be insecure. Or re-writing old press releases to hide uncomfortable truths. Or how they sacked Professor David Colquhoun from their standards [...] [...] of interest with evidence based care. Or how their members’ database appeared to be insecure. Or re-writing old press releases to hide uncomfortable truths. Or how they sacked Professor David Colquhoun from their standards [...]

]]> By: Ofquack to regulate herbal medicine? « gimpy’s blog http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it.html#comment-11242 Ofquack to regulate herbal medicine? « gimpy’s blog Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:36:04 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it-rewrites-old-press-release.html#comment-11242 [...] is probably regarded as good news by the CNHC, they have had a well documented struggle for funding and have had trouble attracting some of the more popular forms of quackery.   Regardless of this, [...] [...] is probably regarded as good news by the CNHC, they have had a well documented struggle for funding and have had trouble attracting some of the more popular forms of quackery.   Regardless of this, [...]

]]> By: Inspiros http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it.html#comment-8958 Inspiros Sun, 04 Oct 2009 07:30:35 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it-rewrites-old-press-release.html#comment-8958 "They claim to be a regulator to help the protect the public against dangerous quacks but they refuse to discuss that tricky problem that none of those they seek to regulate have any good evidence that what they do works. It is the nonsensical regulation of charlatanism and delusion."<br />This is my concern. I'm a hypnotherapist and my profession is thinking of joining CNHC. Yet we have a body of research (not as many RCTs as we'd like), academic journals (e.g. The International Journal of Clinical and Experiemental Hypnosis) - and hypnosis is a serious research topic in psychology departments (we have plausible mechanisms of action - even if they aren't yet agreed upon). And a good deal of the medical community feel hypnotherapy could be quite effective for stress and anxiety related conditions.<br /><br />I really don't think government regulation with HPC is a likely or necessary route (they're going to have enough of an issue swallowing psychotherapists and counsellors!)... but why should a reasonably respected profession (yes we've got some wild amateur cowboys in there) jump into bed with aromatherapists and homeopaths? "They claim to be a regulator to help the protect the public against dangerous quacks but they refuse to discuss that tricky problem that none of those they seek to regulate have any good evidence that what they do works. It is the nonsensical regulation of charlatanism and delusion."
This is my concern. I'm a hypnotherapist and my profession is thinking of joining CNHC. Yet we have a body of research (not as many RCTs as we'd like), academic journals (e.g. The International Journal of Clinical and Experiemental Hypnosis) – and hypnosis is a serious research topic in psychology departments (we have plausible mechanisms of action – even if they aren't yet agreed upon). And a good deal of the medical community feel hypnotherapy could be quite effective for stress and anxiety related conditions.

I really don't think government regulation with HPC is a likely or necessary route (they're going to have enough of an issue swallowing psychotherapists and counsellors!)… but why should a reasonably respected profession (yes we've got some wild amateur cowboys in there) jump into bed with aromatherapists and homeopaths?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it.html#comment-8647 Anonymous Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:48:58 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it-rewrites-old-press-release.html#comment-8647 Now to be fair they have got 2 Aromatherapists and 38 Nutritional therapists as at the 27th July 2009:<br /><br />http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/society-of-homeopaths-reject-ofquack-regulation/ <br /><br />They don't have any power, any respect or aparently even any skills in mathmatics. Any 'theraspist' mad enough to join this deserves to be fleeced of their £50! Now to be fair they have got 2 Aromatherapists and 38 Nutritional therapists as at the 27th July 2009:

http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/society-of-homeopaths-reject-ofquack-regulation/

They don't have any power, any respect or aparently even any skills in mathmatics. Any 'theraspist' mad enough to join this deserves to be fleeced of their £50!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it.html#comment-8502 Anonymous Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:23:44 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it-rewrites-old-press-release.html#comment-8502 ALL CHANGE....<br /><br />According to the Youga Council http://www.britishcouncilforyogatherapy.org.uk/news.html <br /><br />CHNC are not looking for 10,000 registrants any more; not even 4,000 now it is only 2000! Anyone thought about giving them lessons in maths? <br />'Funding CHNC - department of Health is due to fund until March 2011, then CNHC self funding.<br /><br />The register went live19 Jan 09 for Nutritionists and Massage Therapists. 400 are currently on register with 600 applicants to process. 2000 registrants is the target for September 09.' ALL CHANGE….

According to the Youga Council http://www.britishcouncilforyogatherapy.org.uk/news.html

CHNC are not looking for 10,000 registrants any more; not even 4,000 now it is only 2000! Anyone thought about giving them lessons in maths?
'Funding CHNC – department of Health is due to fund until March 2011, then CNHC self funding.

The register went live19 Jan 09 for Nutritionists and Massage Therapists. 400 are currently on register with 600 applicants to process. 2000 registrants is the target for September 09.'

]]> By: David Colquhoun http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it.html#comment-8492 David Colquhoun Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:07:42 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it-rewrites-old-press-release.html#comment-8492 It is certainly true from my experience that Trading Standards offices are ill-equipped to enforce the <a href="http://www.dcscience.net/?p=790" rel="nofollow">Consumer Protection Unfair Trading regulations</a> (May 2008). The rules are quite strong about false health claims. It is the responsibility of Trading Standards to enforce them, but they aren't really doing it. If money is to be spent, that's where it should go. It is certainly true from my experience that Trading Standards offices are ill-equipped to enforce the Consumer Protection Unfair Trading regulations (May 2008). The rules are quite strong about false health claims. It is the responsibility of Trading Standards to enforce them, but they aren't really doing it. If money is to be spent, that's where it should go.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it.html#comment-8488 Anonymous Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:47:02 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it-rewrites-old-press-release.html#comment-8488 Just so we get this in perspective £400K this year, £127K next year and they have already spent £900K to get into existance! Gawd knows how many snouts in the trough. Have you seen the list of board positions!!! A total of 423 registrants! My maths is school-boy level but that is over £1000 of tax-payer money per registrant. Shouldn't they be building a duck house? This one needs to got to the Telegraph. Just so we get this in perspective £400K this year, £127K next year and they have already spent £900K to get into existance! Gawd knows how many snouts in the trough. Have you seen the list of board positions!!! A total of 423 registrants! My maths is school-boy level but that is over £1000 of tax-payer money per registrant. Shouldn't they be building a duck house? This one needs to got to the Telegraph.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it.html#comment-8480 Anonymous Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:32:45 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it-rewrites-old-press-release.html#comment-8480 Can anyone shed any light on how much money has been spent per registered quack? Can anyone shed any light on how much money has been spent per registered quack?

]]> By: snooper http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it.html#comment-8479 snooper Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:40:20 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it-rewrites-old-press-release.html#comment-8479 is this thing working now? is this thing working now?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it.html#comment-8477 Anonymous Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:26:33 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it-rewrites-old-press-release.html#comment-8477 According to the Royal Family's official website...<br />http://www.royal.gov.uk/ThecurrentRoyalFamily/TheRoyalFamilyname/Overview.aspx<br />Prince Charles's official surname at birth was Windsor, but since 1960 has been Mountbatten-Windsor.<br /><br />Although that doesn't change his inbred muppet status one jot! According to the Royal Family's official website…
http://www.royal.gov.uk/ThecurrentRoyalFamily/TheRoyalFamilyname/Overview.aspx
Prince Charles's official surname at birth was Windsor, but since 1960 has been Mountbatten-Windsor.

Although that doesn't change his inbred muppet status one jot!

]]>