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	<title>Comments on: How the British Chiropractic Association Targets Children</title>
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		<title>By: Le Canard Noir</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/how-british-chiropractic-association.html#comment-9117</link>
		<dc:creator>Le Canard Noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure who the Danes were that were &#039;pursuaded&#039;, but it is quite clear now that the Jesper study is deeply flawed. Again, are you willing to bet your career that this is a sound result?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will not here go through your papers for you - I would suggets you do some critical appraisal of your own and look at the papers and see how well blinded they were, what controls were used and assess whether or not you want to bet your career on them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You might want to learn from a recent BMJ cooment article on this very problem: http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/339/jul08_4/b2766</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure who the Danes were that were &#39;pursuaded&#39;, but it is quite clear now that the Jesper study is deeply flawed. Again, are you willing to bet your career that this is a sound result?</p>
<p>I will not here go through your papers for you &#8211; I would suggets you do some critical appraisal of your own and look at the papers and see how well blinded they were, what controls were used and assess whether or not you want to bet your career on them.</p>
<p>You might want to learn from a recent BMJ cooment article on this very problem: <a href="http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/339/jul08_4/b2766" rel="nofollow">http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/339/jul08_4/b2766</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Pickard</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/how-british-chiropractic-association.html#comment-9115</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Pickard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then why did it pursuade the Danes?  And what of the other studies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then why did it pursuade the Danes?  And what of the other studies?</p>
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		<title>By: Le Canard Noir</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/how-british-chiropractic-association.html#comment-9114</link>
		<dc:creator>Le Canard Noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at this time of night - let us just start with Jesper - a study that used dimethicone as an unblinded control. Dimethicone is not regarded as an effective treatment - and chiro was as good as this drug. Not very convincing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at this time of night &#8211; let us just start with Jesper &#8211; a study that used dimethicone as an unblinded control. Dimethicone is not regarded as an effective treatment &#8211; and chiro was as good as this drug. Not very convincing.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Pickard</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/how-british-chiropractic-association.html#comment-9113</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Pickard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the problem with the evidence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#39;s the problem with the evidence?</p>
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		<title>By: Le Canard Noir</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/how-british-chiropractic-association.html#comment-9110</link>
		<dc:creator>Le Canard Noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want constructive comments?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I sincerely hope you are not going to use this sort of evidence from chiropractic fanzines in a defense with the GCC of misleading patients about colic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want constructive comments?</p>
<p>I sincerely hope you are not going to use this sort of evidence from chiropractic fanzines in a defense with the GCC of misleading patients about colic.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Pickard</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/how-british-chiropractic-association.html#comment-9109</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Pickard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing how polarised people get about health and children, being a father of two myself I can quite understand.  Here&#039;s something I wrote about chiropractic and chhildren - I welcome constructive comments well argued.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Guttman G.  Blocked atlantal nerve syndrome in babies and infants.  Manuelle Medizin. 1987, 25&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reports on the examination and adjustment of more than 1000 infants with ‘atlas blockage’ or as chiropractors would call it – subluxation.&lt;br /&gt;The symptoms of ‘atlas blockage’ ranged from, “central motor impairment and development through diencephalic impairments of vegetative regulatory systems to lowered resistance to infections, especially to ear, nose and throat infections.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also mentions the work of a colleague, Frymann, who examined 1250 new born babies.  211 suffered vomiting, hyperactivity and sleeplessness.  Examination revealed ‘cervical strain’ in 95% of this symptomatic group.  Manipulation then , “frequently resulted in immediate cessation of crying, muscular relaxation  and sleepiness”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Conclusions: 80% of children are not in autonomic balance, that the upper cervical spine should be examined and, if required, treated with specific manipulation, because, “the success of adjustment overshadows every other type of treatment.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Biedermann H. Kinematic imbalances due to suboccipital  strain in newborns. Manuel Medicine 1992; 6 &lt;br /&gt;600 babies with a variety of problems including postural asymmetries, motor problems (including torticollis) , loss of appetite, neck sensitivity, fevers of unknown origin and other central nervous system disorders.&lt;br /&gt;Results, “All but one of our little patients treated only with manipulation of the upper cervical spine developed satisfactorily.”  No complications. &lt;br /&gt;“The immense pathogenic potential of the proprioceptive afferents of the suboccipital region has until now been widely underestimated.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesper et al.  The short term effect of spinal manipulation in the treatment of infantile colic: A randomized controlled clinical trial with a blinded observer. JMPT 1999; 22 (8)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This, and an earlier study in 1989 found, specific, finger tip adjustments to the spine relieved colic symptoms.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Danish health authorities, already being familiar with the safety and effectiveness of chiropractic for adults, picked up on this study and instructed nurses to recommend chiropractic care for babies suffering from colic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(As an aside, Denmark’s progressive implementation of chiropractic and a rehabilitation program have lead it to be the ONLY country to be successfully managing chronic low back pain)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing how polarised people get about health and children, being a father of two myself I can quite understand.  Here&#39;s something I wrote about chiropractic and chhildren &#8211; I welcome constructive comments well argued.</p>
<p>Guttman G.  Blocked atlantal nerve syndrome in babies and infants.  Manuelle Medizin. 1987, 25</p>
<p>Reports on the examination and adjustment of more than 1000 infants with ‘atlas blockage’ or as chiropractors would call it – subluxation.<br />The symptoms of ‘atlas blockage’ ranged from, “central motor impairment and development through diencephalic impairments of vegetative regulatory systems to lowered resistance to infections, especially to ear, nose and throat infections.”</p>
<p>Also mentions the work of a colleague, Frymann, who examined 1250 new born babies.  211 suffered vomiting, hyperactivity and sleeplessness.  Examination revealed ‘cervical strain’ in 95% of this symptomatic group.  Manipulation then , “frequently resulted in immediate cessation of crying, muscular relaxation  and sleepiness”.</p>
<p>Conclusions: 80% of children are not in autonomic balance, that the upper cervical spine should be examined and, if required, treated with specific manipulation, because, “the success of adjustment overshadows every other type of treatment.”</p>
<p>Biedermann H. Kinematic imbalances due to suboccipital  strain in newborns. Manuel Medicine 1992; 6 <br />600 babies with a variety of problems including postural asymmetries, motor problems (including torticollis) , loss of appetite, neck sensitivity, fevers of unknown origin and other central nervous system disorders.<br />Results, “All but one of our little patients treated only with manipulation of the upper cervical spine developed satisfactorily.”  No complications. <br />“The immense pathogenic potential of the proprioceptive afferents of the suboccipital region has until now been widely underestimated.”</p>
<p>Jesper et al.  The short term effect of spinal manipulation in the treatment of infantile colic: A randomized controlled clinical trial with a blinded observer. JMPT 1999; 22 (8)</p>
<p>This, and an earlier study in 1989 found, specific, finger tip adjustments to the spine relieved colic symptoms.  </p>
<p>The Danish health authorities, already being familiar with the safety and effectiveness of chiropractic for adults, picked up on this study and instructed nurses to recommend chiropractic care for babies suffering from colic.</p>
<p>(As an aside, Denmark’s progressive implementation of chiropractic and a rehabilitation program have lead it to be the ONLY country to be successfully managing chronic low back pain)</p>
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		<title>By: Le Canard Noir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Le Canard Noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One word: idiot.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The notochord does not develop first, but as one component from the mesoderm which develops alongside the ectoderm and the endoderm - the basic layering which gives rise to all body systems. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just one element of so many wrong things in so few words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One word: idiot.</p>
<p>The notochord does not develop first, but as one component from the mesoderm which develops alongside the ectoderm and the endoderm &#8211; the basic layering which gives rise to all body systems. </p>
<p>Just one element of so many wrong things in so few words.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 10:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel you all need to be a little more open to Chiropractic and other complimentary health care, you all sound like a bunch of allopathic yuppies, the philosophy behind it makes total sense....nervous system: 45% of which innervates the  viscera.....if there are many variables adding to a problem/pathology then REMOVE one to help the body!! With asthma, increase the thoracic expansion to help breathing etc...still not make sense?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I happen to love Chiropractic and why is everyone getting a bee in their bonnet because people are taking charge of their health and refusing to pop pills all the time....Hippocrates- &#039;for health...look to the spine&#039; Why is that soooo out there? It developed first- notochord and all that!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel you all need to be a little more open to Chiropractic and other complimentary health care, you all sound like a bunch of allopathic yuppies, the philosophy behind it makes total sense&#8230;.nervous system: 45% of which innervates the  viscera&#8230;..if there are many variables adding to a problem/pathology then REMOVE one to help the body!! With asthma, increase the thoracic expansion to help breathing etc&#8230;still not make sense?</p>
<p>I happen to love Chiropractic and why is everyone getting a bee in their bonnet because people are taking charge of their health and refusing to pop pills all the time&#8230;.Hippocrates- &#39;for health&#8230;look to the spine&#39; Why is that soooo out there? It developed first- notochord and all that!!</p>
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		<title>By: theonlyrick</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/how-british-chiropractic-association.html#comment-8693</link>
		<dc:creator>theonlyrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Clarinda&lt;br /&gt;PC Gone Mad?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What does political correctness have to do with quackery, BCA cherry-picking evidence or &#039;science&#039; being led by a PR company?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Clarinda<br />PC Gone Mad?</p>
<p>What does political correctness have to do with quackery, BCA cherry-picking evidence or &#39;science&#39; being led by a PR company?</p>
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		<title>By: Le Canard Noir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Le Canard Noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there &#039;bloggers suck&#039;. You sound a little angry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fistly, you could be right that the campaign was first developed outside the UK. But you provide no evidence. You say &#039;obviously&#039; but it is not cleat why this should be. If you could, that would be useful. I do note that the campaign is used in other countries now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondly, I do provide sources for my own claims. Note that publicasity do actually take credit for this campaign. Now, this may or may not be true. But I would suggest you post better evidence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thirdly, none of this adds to my belief that almost all chiropractic is evidenced nonsense. No matter who made up this sorry bit of PR that charge will not go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there &#39;bloggers suck&#39;. You sound a little angry.</p>
<p>Fistly, you could be right that the campaign was first developed outside the UK. But you provide no evidence. You say &#39;obviously&#39; but it is not cleat why this should be. If you could, that would be useful. I do note that the campaign is used in other countries now.</p>
<p>Secondly, I do provide sources for my own claims. Note that publicasity do actually take credit for this campaign. Now, this may or may not be true. But I would suggest you post better evidence.</p>
<p>Thirdly, none of this adds to my belief that almost all chiropractic is evidenced nonsense. No matter who made up this sorry bit of PR that charge will not go away.</p>
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