Comments on: Chiropractic: A Joke http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/joke.html Experiments and Thoughts on Quackery, Health Beliefs and Pseudoscience Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:47:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Badly Shaved Monkey http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/joke.html#comment-16047 Badly Shaved Monkey Mon, 17 Oct 2011 05:52:14 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/chiropractic-a-joke.html#comment-16047 Can humans normally lift their shoulders over their heads? Mine stay stubbornly attached to the top corners of my torso. Can humans normally lift their shoulders over their heads? Mine stay stubbornly attached to the top corners of my torso.

]]> By: Concerned http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/joke.html#comment-16046 Concerned Mon, 17 Oct 2011 03:29:23 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/chiropractic-a-joke.html#comment-16046 I hope you never need our services....obviously you know nothing about Chiropractic care. I hope you never need our services….obviously you know nothing about Chiropractic care.

]]> By: Concerned http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/joke.html#comment-16045 Concerned Mon, 17 Oct 2011 03:25:14 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/chiropractic-a-joke.html#comment-16045 I had a patient come to me last week. She could not lift her shoulder over her head. Her brother, who is a a Rheumatologist told her not to see a Chiropractor and that she should just take some pain pills and muscle relaxers. After I examined her, I found misaligned ribs and weak rotator cuff muscles. In short, she was not having normal FUNCTION. I adjusted her ribheads and performed some myofascial and neurolymphatic treatment to the rotator cuff musculature. She was now able to lift her arm over the shoulder with an 80 percent reduction of pain. So the "quack"looks at restoring function and the brilliant MD just wants to cover the symptoms and ignore the underlying cause? For over 30 years, I have been practicing Chiropractic and it works for many conditions without a doubt. I am really tired of ignorant and prejudiced idiots misleading the public away from valuable care that they sorely need.... I had a patient come to me last week. She could not lift her shoulder over her head. Her brother, who is a a Rheumatologist told her not to see a Chiropractor and that she should just take some pain pills and muscle relaxers. After I examined her, I found misaligned ribs and weak rotator cuff muscles. In short, she was not having normal FUNCTION. I adjusted her ribheads and performed some myofascial and neurolymphatic treatment to the rotator cuff musculature. She was now able to lift her arm over the shoulder with an 80 percent reduction of pain. So the “quack”looks at restoring function and the brilliant MD just wants to cover the symptoms and ignore the underlying cause? For over 30 years, I have been practicing Chiropractic and it works for many conditions without a doubt. I am really tired of ignorant and prejudiced idiots misleading the public away from valuable care that they sorely need….

]]> By: Badly Shaved Monkey http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/joke.html#comment-15902 Badly Shaved Monkey Sun, 18 Sep 2011 06:30:57 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/chiropractic-a-joke.html#comment-15902 You may be right that chiropractic helped you, but all you can legitimately say is this; "After a car accident I had a 14 degree scoliosis to the right which corrected to only 7 degrees in a few months" We don't have such a major problem with chiros' claims to help back problems, though the evidence suggests they are no better than a variety of other physical therapies. On the other hand if they put their hands around your neck you might end up dead as a result in the service of a therapy that is either no better than other physical therapies for the same problem or is utterly irrelevant to the patient's condition. In the latter case, the risk:benefit ratio heads off towards infinity. We have a problem with chiros who advise against vaccination and pretend to help a host of non-spinal medical conditions. If we could make chiros magically vanish tomorrow, no one would be worse off and quite a few people would be better off, medically and financially. You may be right that chiropractic helped you, but all you can legitimately say is this;

“After a car accident I had a 14 degree scoliosis to the right which corrected to only 7 degrees in a few months”

We don’t have such a major problem with chiros’ claims to help back problems, though the evidence suggests they are no better than a variety of other physical therapies. On the other hand if they put their hands around your neck you might end up dead as a result in the service of a therapy that is either no better than other physical therapies for the same problem or is utterly irrelevant to the patient’s condition. In the latter case, the risk:benefit ratio heads off towards infinity.

We have a problem with chiros who advise against vaccination and pretend to help a host of non-spinal medical conditions.

If we could make chiros magically vanish tomorrow, no one would be worse off and quite a few people would be better off, medically and financially.

]]> By: Marco http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/joke.html#comment-15901 Marco Sun, 18 Sep 2011 02:06:22 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/chiropractic-a-joke.html#comment-15901 After a car accident I had a 14 degree scoliosis to the right which corrected to only 7 degrees with chiropractic care in a few months; a later accident knocked it back towards the 14 degrees and I would bet as good as I feel now it is 7 or better again. With the expert care and muscle work I get at my Chiropractor, I see immediate functional improvements. Probably, scares alot of you MD's because you're not trained in getting that kind of effect or results. Too bad for you. But, it's not your niche. Handle the broken bones and stitch up those open wounds. Don't stand in the way of letting a patient transition back to a more normal life afterward with chiropractic. I vote for a combination of both approaches, but in either case only what works. Chiropractic works for me. After a car accident I had a 14 degree scoliosis to the right which corrected to only 7 degrees with chiropractic care in a few months; a later accident knocked it back towards the 14 degrees and I would bet as good as I feel now it is 7 or better again. With the expert care and muscle work I get at my Chiropractor, I see immediate functional improvements. Probably, scares alot of you MD’s because you’re not trained in getting that kind of effect or results. Too bad for you. But, it’s not your niche. Handle the broken bones and stitch up those open wounds. Don’t stand in the way of letting a patient transition back to a more normal life afterward with chiropractic. I vote for a combination of both approaches, but in either case only what works. Chiropractic works for me.

]]> By: le canard noir http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/joke.html#comment-14536 le canard noir Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:49:40 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/chiropractic-a-joke.html#comment-14536 Would you be someone with half a brain, or no brain? Would you be someone with half a brain, or no brain?

]]> By: Gymnophiliac http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/joke.html#comment-14535 Gymnophiliac Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:21:07 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/chiropractic-a-joke.html#comment-14535 How Pathetic. Do you even know what you are talking about? How Pathetic.
Do you even know what you are talking about?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/joke.html#comment-9082 Anonymous Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:26:32 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/chiropractic-a-joke.html#comment-9082 oh dear...... oh dear……

]]> By: Le Canard Noir http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/joke.html#comment-8434 Le Canard Noir Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:20:04 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/chiropractic-a-joke.html#comment-8434 "Tuition costs for chiro school alone now run over $100K."<br /><br />The first victims of chiropractic would appear to be themselves. "Tuition costs for chiro school alone now run over $100K."

The first victims of chiropractic would appear to be themselves.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/joke.html#comment-8430 Anonymous Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:19:25 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/06/chiropractic-a-joke.html#comment-8430 I don't know much about educational requirements in the UK but US requirements for a DC degree are extensive. At least 3 years undegraduate work (most have a four year degree) followed by at least five years (10 semesters minimum) in chiroractic school (all accredited courses) with the first two years of basic medical sciences running from 18 to 22 course hours per semester. The last two years add clinical rotations in school clinics, local hospitals and now in the VA hospital system as well. Tuition costs for chiro school alone now run over $100K. I don't know much about educational requirements in the UK but US requirements for a DC degree are extensive. At least 3 years undegraduate work (most have a four year degree) followed by at least five years (10 semesters minimum) in chiroractic school (all accredited courses) with the first two years of basic medical sciences running from 18 to 22 course hours per semester. The last two years add clinical rotations in school clinics, local hospitals and now in the VA hospital system as well. Tuition costs for chiro school alone now run over $100K.

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