Comments on: General Chiropractic Council Hiring Staff to deal with Complaints http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring.html Experiments and Thoughts on Quackery, Health Beliefs and Pseudoscience Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:47:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Dr. Ben http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring.html#comment-13506 Dr. Ben Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:32:09 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring-staff-to-deal-with-complaints.html#comment-13506 Interesting stuff. I agree this is standard disclaimer info. Interesting stuff. I agree this is standard disclaimer info.

]]> By: Le Canard Noir http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring.html#comment-8564 Le Canard Noir Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:12:37 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring-staff-to-deal-with-complaints.html#comment-8564 I think that is pretty standard disclaimer stuff I think that is pretty standard disclaimer stuff

]]> By: Andrew Gilbey, NZ http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring.html#comment-8563 Andrew Gilbey, NZ Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:42:35 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring-staff-to-deal-with-complaints.html#comment-8563 We may also obtain information about your online movements and use of the internet. We do this by placing a 'cookie' on your computer's hard disk. Cookies are alphanumeric identifiers that we transfer to your computer's hard drive through your Web browser to enable our systems to recognise your browser. Cookies are used for several reasons (These are my favourites):<br /> 10.1. to recognise you whenever you visit this website;<br /> 10.4. to build a profile about you<br /><br />George Orwell's big brother? No - just a part of the BCA's privacy statement. See http://www.chiropractic-uk.co.uk/default.aspx?m=14&mi=55&title=PRIVACY+STATEMENT We may also obtain information about your online movements and use of the internet. We do this by placing a 'cookie' on your computer's hard disk. Cookies are alphanumeric identifiers that we transfer to your computer's hard drive through your Web browser to enable our systems to recognise your browser. Cookies are used for several reasons (These are my favourites):
10.1. to recognise you whenever you visit this website;
10.4. to build a profile about you

George Orwell's big brother? No – just a part of the BCA's privacy statement. See http://www.chiropractic-uk.co.uk/default.aspx?m=14&mi=55&title=PRIVACY+STATEMENT

]]> By: DavidP http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring.html#comment-8561 DavidP Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:26:05 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring-staff-to-deal-with-complaints.html#comment-8561 Andy,<br />Processing of your complaint should not be affected.<br /><br />The letter specifically covers "complaints relating to chiropractic websites". Your complaint against Richard Brown & co. is not about websites, and should not be delayed. It would be very undesirable for the GCC to delay processing your complaint because the BCA officers are repeatedly publishing misleading articles in support of chiropratic, and any delay allows them to increase the amount of harm done.<br /><br />It may be worth contacting the GCC and running this argument past them. Andy,
Processing of your complaint should not be affected.

The letter specifically covers "complaints relating to chiropractic websites". Your complaint against Richard Brown & co. is not about websites, and should not be delayed. It would be very undesirable for the GCC to delay processing your complaint because the BCA officers are repeatedly publishing misleading articles in support of chiropratic, and any delay allows them to increase the amount of harm done.

It may be worth contacting the GCC and running this argument past them.

]]> By: John H http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring.html#comment-8560 John H Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:46:36 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring-staff-to-deal-with-complaints.html#comment-8560 I am quite happy to call my dentist doctor.<br /><br />At least he studied proper medicine at a proper university and is registered with a properly constituted medical authority - not a bunch of self seeking manipulative (any way you choose to interpret it) grasping quacks screwing the gullible with fantasy nonsense invented by a crooked charlatan who killed his father for the wonga.<br /><br />My dentist might only do gnashers, gums and gobs but the maxillo-facial consultant who operated on my jawbone last week does not do much more than that. Mind you, he is actually a doctor AND a dentist which is pretty impressive. Ironically he is called Mister ! I am quite happy to call my dentist doctor.

At least he studied proper medicine at a proper university and is registered with a properly constituted medical authority – not a bunch of self seeking manipulative (any way you choose to interpret it) grasping quacks screwing the gullible with fantasy nonsense invented by a crooked charlatan who killed his father for the wonga.

My dentist might only do gnashers, gums and gobs but the maxillo-facial consultant who operated on my jawbone last week does not do much more than that. Mind you, he is actually a doctor AND a dentist which is pretty impressive. Ironically he is called Mister !

]]> By: dizzyblonde http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring.html#comment-8559 dizzyblonde Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:05:26 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring-staff-to-deal-with-complaints.html#comment-8559 " Jack of Kent said... <br />I agree that this is consistent with due process. <br /><br />If the resource issue is genuine, then rushed invesitgations would concern me a lot more."<br /><br />I think the resource issue is genuine, Jack. there are only two members of staff in the Fitness to Practice team at the GCC plus the Invesitgating Committee is currently only just quorate (5 members needed http://www.gcc-uk.org/files/link_file/The_GCC_(Constitution_of_the_Statutory_Committees)_Rules_Order_of_Council_2009.pdf [page 5], only 5 names on the list plus vacancies http://www.gcc-uk.org/page.cfm?page_id=9). And of course there will already be complaints in progress to be dealt with. <br /><br />I can imagine the workload - just the photocopying for each complaint to be cosidered at Investigating Committee must be a min 10 sets of papers and like legal files, some bundles will be several inches thick. <br /><br />Then the question of how many cases in a day can the Investigating Committee get through? If small, say 5 or 6 pages, maybe 10 mins each so poss 5 per hour = max 40 per day. By these calculations, it will take 15 days alone to consider the 590 individual complaints. Plus the time needed to draft charges for any that proceed to Professional Conduct Committee. I don't see any 'standard' charges listed in any of the GCC papers so it seems likely that each charge sheet is drafted on its own merits. " Jack of Kent said…
I agree that this is consistent with due process.

If the resource issue is genuine, then rushed invesitgations would concern me a lot more."

I think the resource issue is genuine, Jack. there are only two members of staff in the Fitness to Practice team at the GCC plus the Invesitgating Committee is currently only just quorate (5 members needed http://www.gcc-uk.org/files/link_file/The_GCC_(Constitution_of_the_Statutory_Committees)_Rules_Order_of_Council_2009.pdf [page 5], only 5 names on the list plus vacancies http://www.gcc-uk.org/page.cfm?page_id=9). And of course there will already be complaints in progress to be dealt with.

I can imagine the workload – just the photocopying for each complaint to be cosidered at Investigating Committee must be a min 10 sets of papers and like legal files, some bundles will be several inches thick.

Then the question of how many cases in a day can the Investigating Committee get through? If small, say 5 or 6 pages, maybe 10 mins each so poss 5 per hour = max 40 per day. By these calculations, it will take 15 days alone to consider the 590 individual complaints. Plus the time needed to draft charges for any that proceed to Professional Conduct Committee. I don't see any 'standard' charges listed in any of the GCC papers so it seems likely that each charge sheet is drafted on its own merits.

]]> By: Clarinda http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring.html#comment-8558 Clarinda Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:55:04 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring-staff-to-deal-with-complaints.html#comment-8558 I am waiting for the BMJ to be harangued for elitist medical protectionism by the alternative cults, their contrived 'education' operatives, practical business hustlers and duped customers. <br />We must stop attaching the word - medicine - to alternative as this masquerades as a forged passport allowing the cults to illogically attempt entry to scientific territory and feed off the gullibility of those who, under the influence of listening to whales mating, confuse the natural coincidence of recovery and adaption with cash for cults.<br />I am currently drafting a letter to my local FE college to question the inclusion of so many crystal dangling and toe-tickling courses they run (I can see the point of capital accumulation - but not based on utter guff in an educational institution that has ambitions to develop a HE profile and connections with established universities. <br />re Peter in Dundee - I think US dentists call themselves Dr but that may be related to their qualifications? I am waiting for the BMJ to be harangued for elitist medical protectionism by the alternative cults, their contrived 'education' operatives, practical business hustlers and duped customers.
We must stop attaching the word – medicine – to alternative as this masquerades as a forged passport allowing the cults to illogically attempt entry to scientific territory and feed off the gullibility of those who, under the influence of listening to whales mating, confuse the natural coincidence of recovery and adaption with cash for cults.
I am currently drafting a letter to my local FE college to question the inclusion of so many crystal dangling and toe-tickling courses they run (I can see the point of capital accumulation – but not based on utter guff in an educational institution that has ambitions to develop a HE profile and connections with established universities.
re Peter in Dundee – I think US dentists call themselves Dr but that may be related to their qualifications?

]]> By: davidp http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring.html#comment-8557 davidp Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:38:00 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring-staff-to-deal-with-complaints.html#comment-8557 Dentists in Australia and the U.K. also use the "Dr" title, by tradition. Neither dentists nor the public suppose that dentists can treat non-dental ailments, so there is no issue of overlap.<br />[Disclosure: I come from a family with doctors, no dentists] Dentists in Australia and the U.K. also use the "Dr" title, by tradition. Neither dentists nor the public suppose that dentists can treat non-dental ailments, so there is no issue of overlap.
[Disclosure: I come from a family with doctors, no dentists]

]]> By: Jack of Kent http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring.html#comment-8556 Jack of Kent Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:53:23 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring-staff-to-deal-with-complaints.html#comment-8556 I agree that this is consistent with due process. <br /><br />If the resource issue is genuine, then rushed invesitgations would concern me a lot more. I agree that this is consistent with due process.

If the resource issue is genuine, then rushed invesitgations would concern me a lot more.

]]> By: Peter in Dundee http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring.html#comment-8555 Peter in Dundee Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:42:25 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-hiring-staff-to-deal-with-complaints.html#comment-8555 It isn't just Chiropractors who are misusing the title 'Dr'. I was stood beside a local dental practice last week and noticed their nameplate. Four dentists, four doctors apparently, yet all just BDS. I know medical doctors are generally MB ChB not PhD or MD but dentists? It isn't just Chiropractors who are misusing the title 'Dr'. I was stood beside a local dental practice last week and noticed their nameplate. Four dentists, four doctors apparently, yet all just BDS. I know medical doctors are generally MB ChB not PhD or MD but dentists?

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