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	<title>Comments on: Ozone Therapy, The Homeopath and Savage Grace</title>
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		<title>By: Vince</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/08/ozone-therapy-homeopath-and-savage.html#comment-12072</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst I am well behind the exposure of people who claim to help others in desperation for money, (whilst doing nothing) and also that Ozone treatment is potentially damaging, you make great stock of the fact it kills good cells as well as bad (very true) but then - tell me which conventional cancer treatment doesn&#039;t. 

Chemo uses in some cases poisons that were banned by the Geneva convention for use in warfare. 

Hardly safe and it is very well documented by both the medical profession and the alternatives that chemo eventually kills the patient by destroying their immune system - so you don&#039;t die from cancer you just die from the effects of the treatment.

Whilst I applaud your efforts to expose charlatans and scammers preying on peoples desperate hopes to find a cure, I find your overwhelming bias against alternative therapies a little disturbing - alternative methods seem to have as good if not better track record at curing chronic diseases than mainstream doctors. 

And one question

Will you be exposing the doctors who prescribe drugs (Especially antibiotics) for almost everything. I was recently prescribed Amoxhillin for a viral infection - I merely went to the doctors to ask which cough medicine is best to suppress a cough 

Or is such conduct acceptable because they have passed an exam therefore that makes them infallible?

I wish to add that I am in no way connected to the alternative remedies industry. I am a Photo Voltaic Engineer, however, I do my own extensive research and the treatment of cancer by mainstream doctors is at best no better than alternative methods and at worse more a killer than the disease itself

But then that goes against the grain of your website and you cannot really laugh at the medical profession can you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst I am well behind the exposure of people who claim to help others in desperation for money, (whilst doing nothing) and also that Ozone treatment is potentially damaging, you make great stock of the fact it kills good cells as well as bad (very true) but then &#8211; tell me which conventional cancer treatment doesn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>Chemo uses in some cases poisons that were banned by the Geneva convention for use in warfare. </p>
<p>Hardly safe and it is very well documented by both the medical profession and the alternatives that chemo eventually kills the patient by destroying their immune system &#8211; so you don&#8217;t die from cancer you just die from the effects of the treatment.</p>
<p>Whilst I applaud your efforts to expose charlatans and scammers preying on peoples desperate hopes to find a cure, I find your overwhelming bias against alternative therapies a little disturbing &#8211; alternative methods seem to have as good if not better track record at curing chronic diseases than mainstream doctors. </p>
<p>And one question</p>
<p>Will you be exposing the doctors who prescribe drugs (Especially antibiotics) for almost everything. I was recently prescribed Amoxhillin for a viral infection &#8211; I merely went to the doctors to ask which cough medicine is best to suppress a cough </p>
<p>Or is such conduct acceptable because they have passed an exam therefore that makes them infallible?</p>
<p>I wish to add that I am in no way connected to the alternative remedies industry. I am a Photo Voltaic Engineer, however, I do my own extensive research and the treatment of cancer by mainstream doctors is at best no better than alternative methods and at worse more a killer than the disease itself</p>
<p>But then that goes against the grain of your website and you cannot really laugh at the medical profession can you?</p>
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		<title>By: Antares</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/08/ozone-therapy-homeopath-and-savage.html#comment-10332</link>
		<dc:creator>Antares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hellfried Sartori, 67&quot; - HELLfried? You have GOT to be kidding me. It would be funny if it weren&#039;t so sad.

/Daniel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hellfried Sartori, 67&#8243; &#8211; HELLfried? You have GOT to be kidding me. It would be funny if it weren&#8217;t so sad.</p>
<p>/Daniel</p>
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		<title>By: Le Canard Noir</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/08/ozone-therapy-homeopath-and-savage.html#comment-8887</link>
		<dc:creator>Le Canard Noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Ozone Therapy lark appears to be widespread. From WhatsTheHarm.net I find this shocking case...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,20464459-5006301,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;Cure&#039; kills mother&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;POLICE and consumer affairs authorities are investigating a network of rogues peddling bogus cancer cures after the death of a mother of two.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Grieving partner Mark McNamara told yesterday of the pain suffered by his family when wife Leslie Bramston fell victim to cancer quackery that cost tens of thousands of dollars and ended in her death on a remote Northern Territory property.&lt;br /&gt;Ms Bramston, 44, died after being injected with controversial cesium chloride treatment - known as ozone therapy - that has been condemned by cancer experts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She is one of six Australians to have died after being treated by discredited Austrian doctor Hellfried Sartori, 67.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Ozone Therapy lark appears to be widespread. From WhatsTheHarm.net I find this shocking case&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,20464459-5006301,00.html" rel="nofollow">&#39;Cure&#39; kills mother</a></p>
<p>&quot;POLICE and consumer affairs authorities are investigating a network of rogues peddling bogus cancer cures after the death of a mother of two.</p>
<p>Grieving partner Mark McNamara told yesterday of the pain suffered by his family when wife Leslie Bramston fell victim to cancer quackery that cost tens of thousands of dollars and ended in her death on a remote Northern Territory property.<br />Ms Bramston, 44, died after being injected with controversial cesium chloride treatment &#8211; known as ozone therapy &#8211; that has been condemned by cancer experts.</p>
<p>She is one of six Australians to have died after being treated by discredited Austrian doctor Hellfried Sartori, 67.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Warhelmet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warhelmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, UK quacks don&#039;t have military hardware, so maybe they are less scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, UK quacks don&#39;t have military hardware, so maybe they are less scary.</p>
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		<title>By: Le Canard Noir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Le Canard Noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here their great track &quot;Kill Machine Kill&quot; on MySpace http://www.myspace.com/shootthedeadband</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here their great track &quot;Kill Machine Kill&quot; on MySpace <a href="http://www.myspace.com/shootthedeadband" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/shootthedeadband</a></p>
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		<title>By: Le Canard Noir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Le Canard Noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David - the UK does have parallels but somehow we may be kinder to our own and tend to believe they are honest but wrong rather than charlatans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Compare and contrast with this UK outfit: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.visionofhopeclinic.com/home.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Vision of Hope Clinic&lt;/a&gt;. Whilst taking pains not to mention &#039;cancer&#039; the site does talk about Gerson techniques - the implication being clear. It is run by a chap called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.visionofhopeclinic.com/doctor.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dr Andre Young Snell M.B.B.S.&lt;/a&gt; who appears to be registered with the GMC (reg 3286331). The clinic offers Ozone Therapy and Nutritional Therapies to &#039;boost the immune system&#039; and &#039;detoxify&#039;. The genre would also appear to require membership of a rock band - and Andre does indeed appear to belong to a Brighton dance-rock beat combo going by the delightful name of &#039;Shoot the Dead&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Watch their rather good rockumentary here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq_VQzyx26E&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hum along to their track - &quot;She believes in every word&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8211; the UK does have parallels but somehow we may be kinder to our own and tend to believe they are honest but wrong rather than charlatans.</p>
<p>Compare and contrast with this UK outfit: <a href="http://www.visionofhopeclinic.com/home.html" rel="nofollow">The Vision of Hope Clinic</a>. Whilst taking pains not to mention &#39;cancer&#39; the site does talk about Gerson techniques &#8211; the implication being clear. It is run by a chap called <a href="http://www.visionofhopeclinic.com/doctor.html" rel="nofollow">Dr Andre Young Snell M.B.B.S.</a> who appears to be registered with the GMC (reg 3286331). The clinic offers Ozone Therapy and Nutritional Therapies to &#39;boost the immune system&#39; and &#39;detoxify&#39;. The genre would also appear to require membership of a rock band &#8211; and Andre does indeed appear to belong to a Brighton dance-rock beat combo going by the delightful name of &#39;Shoot the Dead&#39;.</p>
<p>Watch their rather good rockumentary here: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq_VQzyx26E" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq_VQzyx26E</a></p>
<p>Hum along to their track &#8211; &quot;She believes in every word&quot;.</p>
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		<title>By: Warhelmet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warhelmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=1260</description>
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		<title>By: UK dietitian</title>
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		<dc:creator>UK dietitian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the UKs very own Stephen Barratt&lt;br /&gt;Now common sense on both sides of the Atlantic&lt;br /&gt;Well done</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the UKs very own Stephen Barratt<br />Now common sense on both sides of the Atlantic<br />Well done</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do they get away with this?  Loop-holes in government regulation in these Caribbean islands?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do they get away with this?  Loop-holes in government regulation in these Caribbean islands?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louise Mclean links to the Rath Foundation on her website. And Hulda Clark. And spirit healers who claim this that and the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louise Mclean links to the Rath Foundation on her website. And Hulda Clark. And spirit healers who claim this that and the other.</p>
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