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	<title>Comments on: MP David Tredinnick calls for more Government Funding of Medical Astrology and Remote Energetic Healing</title>
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		<title>By: diuretic foods</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/10/mp-david-tredinnick-calls-for-more.html#comment-13728</link>
		<dc:creator>diuretic foods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 14:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s backed up by her final paragraph, &quot;It is also right that we choose and fund those treatments that are effective, cost-effective and safe. That decision must be based on robust clinical standards, backed up by rigorous and evidence-based scientific assessment.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s backed up by her final paragraph, &#8220;It is also right that we choose and fund those treatments that are effective, cost-effective and safe. That decision must be based on robust clinical standards, backed up by rigorous and evidence-based scientific assessment.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pro-reality activism soundbite &#8211; from the desk &#8211; UPDATED &#171; Dr Aust&#8217;s Spleen</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/10/mp-david-tredinnick-calls-for-more.html#comment-11305</link>
		<dc:creator>Pro-reality activism soundbite &#8211; from the desk &#8211; UPDATED &#171; Dr Aust&#8217;s Spleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tredinnick does not appear to understand the idea of scientific evidence, and has a long history of bizarre pronouncements on health matters, such as commending astrology and suggesting it is worthy of consideration as a health [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tredinnick does not appear to understand the idea of scientific evidence, and has a long history of bizarre pronouncements on health matters, such as commending astrology and suggesting it is worthy of consideration as a health [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Antares</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/10/mp-david-tredinnick-calls-for-more.html#comment-10339</link>
		<dc:creator>Antares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I agree that CAM needs to be better regulated...&quot; - yeah, right, quacks certifying quack to perform proven quackery and then calling it &quot;alternative medicine&quot;.

&quot;Holistic therapy goes back further than the Egyptians...&quot; - and the belief that the earth is flat is even older. Age doesn&#039;t turn wrong into right.

CAM has been extensively researched and shown to fail rigorous testing. Case closed. One should think.

If one would.
Daniel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I agree that CAM needs to be better regulated&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; yeah, right, quacks certifying quack to perform proven quackery and then calling it &#8220;alternative medicine&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Holistic therapy goes back further than the Egyptians&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; and the belief that the earth is flat is even older. Age doesn&#8217;t turn wrong into right.</p>
<p>CAM has been extensively researched and shown to fail rigorous testing. Case closed. One should think.</p>
<p>If one would.<br />
Daniel</p>
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		<title>By: Antares</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/10/mp-david-tredinnick-calls-for-more.html#comment-10338</link>
		<dc:creator>Antares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angie G: &quot;...the word &#039;lunatics&#039; – which of course comes from &#039;luna&#039; (moon)!!!&quot;

Perfect - the article about animal bites mentioned above starts its Introduction with nearly the same words:

&quot;The word &#039;lunacy&#039; is derived from Luna, the Roman goddess of the moon, and from the belief that the power of the moon can cause disorders of the mind.(1)&quot;

So much anecdotal evidence already!

1. Raison CL, Klin HM, Steckler M. The moon and madness reconsidered. J Affect Disord 1999; 53: 99-106</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angie G: &#8220;&#8230;the word &#8216;lunatics&#8217; – which of course comes from &#8216;luna&#8217; (moon)!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Perfect &#8211; the article about animal bites mentioned above starts its Introduction with nearly the same words:</p>
<p>&#8220;The word &#8216;lunacy&#8217; is derived from Luna, the Roman goddess of the moon, and from the belief that the power of the moon can cause disorders of the mind.(1)&#8221;</p>
<p>So much anecdotal evidence already!</p>
<p>1. Raison CL, Klin HM, Steckler M. The moon and madness reconsidered. J Affect Disord 1999; 53: 99-106</p>
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		<title>By: Antares</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whole-heartedly agreed. Where is the petition I can sign?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whole-heartedly agreed. Where is the petition I can sign?</p>
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		<title>By: MP David Tredinnick is Wrong about the Homeopathy Report &#124; The Quackometer</title>
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		<dc:creator>MP David Tredinnick is Wrong about the Homeopathy Report &#124; The Quackometer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have found a friend in the absurd MP, David Tredinnick, the man who believes the government should be funding medical astrology and remote energetic healing. They have persuaded the MP to propose an Early Day [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have found a friend in the absurd MP, David Tredinnick, the man who believes the government should be funding medical astrology and remote energetic healing. They have persuaded the MP to propose an Early Day [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Le Canard Noir</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/10/mp-david-tredinnick-calls-for-more.html#comment-9178</link>
		<dc:creator>Le Canard Noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elena - your lack of self awareness is truly inspiring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elena &#8211; your lack of self awareness is truly inspiring.</p>
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		<title>By: Elena B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elena B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t usually post comments on sites like this, however, I am amazed at the amount of idiotic, negative and uneducatated comments about CAM.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Holistic therapy does not claim to &#039;cure&#039; but to assist the body to heal itself.  If it works, what is it to you or I if it is the placebo effect?  If I needed relief from a disease or illness and orthodox medicine had failed me (side-effects, too expensive etc.), I would not turn down the chance that CAM may work.  I would not care if it was the therapy or the placebo effect that helped.  If it works, it works.  It&#039;s up to the individual to decide whether to use it or not.  In many cases CAM can be integrated into orthodox healthcare and is. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I agree that CAM needs to be better regulated, so that practising therapists are fully qualified and held accountable for their work.  The government is working towards this.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Holistic therapy goes back further than the Egyptians and no amount of ridiculous comments from you will be able to quash it&#039;s progression into mainstream healthcare.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for Medical Astrology, I don&#039;t know much about this.  However, I worked in a psychiatric hospital for 5 years and I can tell you that whenever we had a sudden increase in admissions and disruptive behaviour it was nearly always a full moon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t usually post comments on sites like this, however, I am amazed at the amount of idiotic, negative and uneducatated comments about CAM.  </p>
<p>Holistic therapy does not claim to &#39;cure&#39; but to assist the body to heal itself.  If it works, what is it to you or I if it is the placebo effect?  If I needed relief from a disease or illness and orthodox medicine had failed me (side-effects, too expensive etc.), I would not turn down the chance that CAM may work.  I would not care if it was the therapy or the placebo effect that helped.  If it works, it works.  It&#39;s up to the individual to decide whether to use it or not.  In many cases CAM can be integrated into orthodox healthcare and is. </p>
<p>I agree that CAM needs to be better regulated, so that practising therapists are fully qualified and held accountable for their work.  The government is working towards this.  </p>
<p>Holistic therapy goes back further than the Egyptians and no amount of ridiculous comments from you will be able to quash it&#39;s progression into mainstream healthcare.</p>
<p>As for Medical Astrology, I don&#39;t know much about this.  However, I worked in a psychiatric hospital for 5 years and I can tell you that whenever we had a sudden increase in admissions and disruptive behaviour it was nearly always a full moon.</p>
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		<title>By: Le Canard Noir</title>
		<link>http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/10/mp-david-tredinnick-calls-for-more.html#comment-9085</link>
		<dc:creator>Le Canard Noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Angie G for writing down the sort of gross stupidity that appears to be so common amongst homeopaths.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, the government wants to suppress homeopathy? The cost of drugs on the NHS is a fraction of the total expenditure. Most money goes on wages (well over half). If the NHS could have a cheap cure that removed people from hospitals it would save a fortune - it would return people to the workforce and massively increase tax revenues. There is no incentive for the government to keep people sick. You are bonkers to think so. Produce the analysis to show you are right. Do the research. OF course you have not. You are just repeating the idiocies of the homeopathic propaganda machine. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And, good grief - babies cannot benefit from the placebo effect argument. How many times has this been explained to you? How many times do you refuse to listen? Look up &#039;regression to the mean&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, and homeopathic pills do not have side effects. That is because they are just sugar pills. They have no effects too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Angie G for writing down the sort of gross stupidity that appears to be so common amongst homeopaths.</p>
<p>So, the government wants to suppress homeopathy? The cost of drugs on the NHS is a fraction of the total expenditure. Most money goes on wages (well over half). If the NHS could have a cheap cure that removed people from hospitals it would save a fortune &#8211; it would return people to the workforce and massively increase tax revenues. There is no incentive for the government to keep people sick. You are bonkers to think so. Produce the analysis to show you are right. Do the research. OF course you have not. You are just repeating the idiocies of the homeopathic propaganda machine. </p>
<p>And, good grief &#8211; babies cannot benefit from the placebo effect argument. How many times has this been explained to you? How many times do you refuse to listen? Look up &#39;regression to the mean&#39;.</p>
<p>Yes, and homeopathic pills do not have side effects. That is because they are just sugar pills. They have no effects too.</p>
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		<title>By: Angie G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wondering about the choice of the word &#039;lunatics&#039; - which of course comes from &#039;luna&#039; (moon)!!!&lt;br /&gt;If it wasn&#039;t for the knowledgeable people actually paying to be cured by homeopaths the NHS would be in an even worse state - it&#039;s already overburdened with all the patients it fails to cure and therefore has to keep medicating long term, thereby creating a need for even more drugs to deal with the side-effects of the first prescription, and so on....  &lt;br /&gt;Stranglehold of pharmaceutical companies + government revenues from said companies = understandable need to quash homeopathy because it would reduce the need for conventional drugs!!&lt;br /&gt;Heaven forbid that the government/NHS would actually want patients to get better!  How would that help the economy??!&lt;br /&gt;And incidentally, try telling a newborn baby that the milk sugar pill is only working because of placebo effect...&lt;br /&gt;Don&#039;t dismiss if you haven&#039;t tried.&lt;br /&gt;You won&#039;t get stomach ulcers (or any other side effects) from a homeopathic remedy for arthritis....but just try dealing with your arthritis via the conventional route and see what else you get into the &#039;bargain&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wondering about the choice of the word &#39;lunatics&#39; &#8211; which of course comes from &#39;luna&#39; (moon)!!!<br />If it wasn&#39;t for the knowledgeable people actually paying to be cured by homeopaths the NHS would be in an even worse state &#8211; it&#39;s already overburdened with all the patients it fails to cure and therefore has to keep medicating long term, thereby creating a need for even more drugs to deal with the side-effects of the first prescription, and so on&#8230;.  <br />Stranglehold of pharmaceutical companies + government revenues from said companies = understandable need to quash homeopathy because it would reduce the need for conventional drugs!!<br />Heaven forbid that the government/NHS would actually want patients to get better!  How would that help the economy??!<br />And incidentally, try telling a newborn baby that the milk sugar pill is only working because of placebo effect&#8230;<br />Don&#39;t dismiss if you haven&#39;t tried.<br />You won&#39;t get stomach ulcers (or any other side effects) from a homeopathic remedy for arthritis&#8230;.but just try dealing with your arthritis via the conventional route and see what else you get into the &#39;bargain&#39;</p>
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