Comments on: 10:23. My Personal Homeopathic Overdose http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html Experiments and Thoughts on Quackery, Health Beliefs and Pseudoscience Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:47:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Badly Shaved Monkey http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-15424 Badly Shaved Monkey Mon, 08 Aug 2011 06:10:52 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-15424 "Homeopathic dilution method do cause effects that have no explanation scientifically." Cite some. We've seen no adequate evidence that this is true. "Dramatic effects are not uniform across people." "If there are any serious researchers who are willing to take the risks i suggest the following preparations which i find to cause DRAMATIC effects in most of the people." What strategy would you propose to show any such effects if they are not consistent? You seem to admit that the effects are not uniform then suggest again that a single-person will have impressive and convincing results. You can't have it both ways. “Homeopathic dilution method do cause effects that have no explanation scientifically.”

Cite some. We’ve seen no adequate evidence that this is true.

“Dramatic effects are not uniform across people.”
“If there are any serious researchers who are willing to take the risks i suggest the following preparations which i find to cause DRAMATIC effects in most of the people.”

What strategy would you propose to show any such effects if they are not consistent?

You seem to admit that the effects are not uniform then suggest again that a single-person will have impressive and convincing results. You can’t have it both ways.

]]> By: Rtved http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-15423 Rtved Mon, 08 Aug 2011 03:53:11 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-15423 BSM " homeopaths have claimed that taking the pills as LCN has done will cause dramatic effects". Dramatic effects are not uniform across people. Homeopathic dilution method do cause effects that have no explanation scientifically. If there are any serious researchers who are willing to take the risks i suggest the following preparations which i find to cause DRAMATIC effects in most of the people. Natrum sulph 6x kali phos 6x BSM

” homeopaths have claimed that taking the pills as LCN has done will cause dramatic effects”.

Dramatic effects are not uniform across people.

Homeopathic dilution method do cause effects that have no explanation scientifically.

If there are any serious researchers who are willing to take the risks i suggest the following preparations which i find to cause DRAMATIC effects in most of the people.

Natrum sulph 6x

kali phos 6x

]]> By: Badly Shaved Monkey http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-14379 Badly Shaved Monkey Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:24:01 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-14379 Rtved, you seem still not to have accepted that homeopaths have claimed that taking the pills as LCN has done will cause dramatic effects. Obviously, you claim these homeopaths were wrong. Its a familiar tactic. The No True Scotsman fallacy is a homeopathic favourite. I see you have made no comment at all about LCN's "Simple Challenge". If you do not accept it is well-founded, what problem do you have with it and how would you solve it? Rtved, you seem still not to have accepted that homeopaths have claimed that taking the pills as LCN has done will cause dramatic effects. Obviously, you claim these homeopaths were wrong. Its a familiar tactic. The No True Scotsman fallacy is a homeopathic favourite.

I see you have made no comment at all about LCN’s “Simple Challenge”. If you do not accept it is well-founded, what problem do you have with it and how would you solve it?

]]> By: Rtved http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-14377 Rtved Mon, 21 Feb 2011 00:29:50 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-14377 No body should be making any extraordinary claims with regards to Homeopathic TREATMENT.Fight them by all means.The Kind of People who recommend Homeopathic preparations enmass for Malaria. If OTOH you are making a serious attempt to Disprove Provings in Individual remedies of Homeopathy do it with Some serious study and planning. The cheering monkeys and Attentoion seeking Bojos are not going to be of any use. Cheers. No body should be making any extraordinary claims with regards to Homeopathic TREATMENT.Fight them by all means.The Kind of People who recommend Homeopathic preparations enmass for Malaria.

If OTOH you are making a serious attempt to Disprove Provings in Individual remedies of Homeopathy do it with Some serious study and planning.

The cheering monkeys and Attentoion seeking Bojos are not going to be of any use.

Cheers.

]]> By: Mojo http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-14373 Mojo Sun, 20 Feb 2011 19:08:23 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-14373 It is a derail, because as I pointed out above there is nothing in § 129 that in any way invalidates LCN's proposed test. The remedies are supposed, according to the <i>Organon</i>, to produce symptoms that are consistent, specific and unmistakable in nature, if not in intensity. And if they don't then the whole of homoeopathic prescribing is nonsense. It is a derail, because as I pointed out above there is nothing in § 129 that in any way invalidates LCN’s proposed test.

The remedies are supposed, according to the Organon, to produce symptoms that are consistent, specific and unmistakable in nature, if not in intensity. And if they don’t then the whole of homoeopathic prescribing is nonsense.

]]> By: le canard noir http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-14368 le canard noir Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:02:18 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-14368 On the contrary. It is for those who risk people's health and lives by making extraordinary claims about these sugar pills to take a "systematic approach" and actually demonstrate under what conditions their claimed effect actually works. I have a feeling you are either trolling or being dishonest now. Perhaps you would like to get off the fence and actually state your position. Do you believe these pills have an effect? An under what conditions? On the contrary. It is for those who risk people’s health and lives by making extraordinary claims about these sugar pills to take a “systematic approach” and actually demonstrate under what conditions their claimed effect actually works.

I have a feeling you are either trolling or being dishonest now.

Perhaps you would like to get off the fence and actually state your position. Do you believe these pills have an effect? An under what conditions?

]]> By: Rtved http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-14367 Rtved Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:27:18 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-14367 LCN and other such serious dudes better take a systematic approach in scrutinizing Homeopathic Provings. Downing some "Homeopathic preparation" at one go and shouting Ooh lala the next Minute is not going to earn any credibility. LCN and other such serious dudes better take a systematic approach in scrutinizing Homeopathic Provings.

Downing some “Homeopathic preparation” at one go and shouting Ooh lala the next Minute is not going to earn any credibility.

]]> By: Rtved http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-14366 Rtved Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:23:28 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-14366 Continuing on 134: All the symptoms doesn't appear in First trial. Continuing on 134: All the symptoms doesn’t appear in First trial.

]]> By: Rtved http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-14365 Rtved Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:21:53 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-14365 Mojo on February 20, 2011 at 8:12 am § 129 says that the symptoms produced may vary in intensity, or take longer, and/or larger doses, to appear. It does not say that different symptoms will appear in different subjects.. RTVED:Good.That is some improvement from dismissing it as derail. The Time lag for appearance of symptoms vary from person to person as per 129. And the Order of appearence also varies as per Refer Organon 134. Mojo on February 20, 2011 at 8:12 am

§ 129 says that the symptoms produced may vary in intensity, or take longer, and/or larger doses, to appear. It does not say that different symptoms will appear in different subjects..

RTVED:Good.That is some improvement from dismissing it as derail.

The Time lag for appearance of symptoms vary from person to person as per 129. And the Order of appearence also varies as per Refer Organon 134.

]]> By: Rtved http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-14364 Rtved Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:15:35 +0000 http://www.quackometer.net/wpblog/2010/01/1023-my-personal-homeopathic-overdose.html#comment-14364 Now, that is some belated wisdom after some dozens of posts. Now, that is some belated wisdom after some dozens of posts.

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