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		<title>MHRA accused of &#8220;clothing naked quackery&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last Wednesday, I gave a talk at the newly formed Coventry Skeptics in the Pub on the ‘Persistence of Delusion’ – why some alternative medicines appear to thrive.
One of the techniques that ensures a healthy quackery is to obtain official endorsement from statutory and regulatory organisations. Chiropractic and Osteopathy have benefited greatly in the UK [...]

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Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2010/01/mhra-and-labelling-of-homeopathic.html' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: The MHRA and the Labeling of Homeopathic Products'>The MHRA and the Labeling of Homeopathic Products</a> <small> Further documents have been published after the House of Commons held its enquiry into the evidence base for government policy on homeopathy. There are some real treats in there,...</small></li>
<li><a href='http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/09/kaloba-cold-cure-how-mhra-condones.html' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Kaloba Cold Cure: How the MHRA condones quackery'>Kaloba Cold Cure: How the MHRA condones quackery</a> <small>The newspapers today were delighting in reporting that a new cold treatment was being made available to us in Britian. Kaloba is an extract of the geranium Pelargonium sidoides, and...</small></li>
<li><a href='http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2011/02/the-homeopaths-desperate-campaign-to-the-mhra.html' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: The Homeopaths&#8217; Desperate Campaign to the MHRA'>The Homeopaths&#8217; Desperate Campaign to the MHRA</a> <small> More leaks from homeopathy land… Tomorrow is the last day that you can submit a response to the MHRA regarding how they should regulate the sale of homeopathic products...</small></li>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/Cyberduck_icon-1.png"><img style="margin: 0px 10px 5px 0px; display: inline; float: left;" title="Cyberduck_icon (1)" src="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/Cyberduck_icon-1_thumb.png" alt="Cyberduck_icon (1)" width="177" height="177" align="left" /></a>Last Wednesday, I gave a talk at the newly formed <a href="http://coventry.skepticsinthepub.org/Event.aspx/656/The-Persistence-of-Delusion" target="_blank">Coventry Skeptics in the Pub</a> on the ‘Persistence of Delusion’ – why some alternative medicines appear to thrive.</p>
<p>One of the techniques that ensures a healthy quackery is to obtain official endorsement from statutory and regulatory organisations. Chiropractic and Osteopathy have benefited greatly in the UK by becoming a protected ‘health profession’. Homeopathy is also helped by some regulations that give them special privileges when it comes to medical licensing.</p>
<p>In the morning, I had been on BBC Radio Coventry to promote the new group and to explain what I would be talking about. Naturally, this adverting would reach more types of people than the ‘sceptic community’. And so, a few believers in superstitious forms of medicine did show up.</p>
<p>One believer left at the break and left behind a scribbled note telling me, basically, how short sighted I was. During questions, another asserted that the campaign against alternative medicine was all driven by the government to back their friends in pharmaceutical companies. I begged to differ.</p>
<p>One of the reasons I disagree is that, if true, the government is doing a very lousy job of it. If I was in charge of the Department of Big Pharma Shilling I would do a much better job.</p>
<p>A good example of how government agencies actually assist quackery rather than protect the public from it is the medicines regulator, the MHRA.</p>
<p>The MHRA is charged with regulating medicines and medical devices. Their ’mission statement’ is</p>
<blockquote><p>The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) is the government agency which is responsible for ensuring that medicines and medical devices work, and are acceptably safe.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is all good. Except when it comes to superstitious and pseudoscientific forms of treatments, they <a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/09/mhra-and-their-double-failure-over.html" target="_blank">casually drop</a> the condition that providers should be able to demonstrate that they work.</p>
<p>The result is that absurd and unproven medical treatments are able to compete on pharmacy shelves with products that have proven benefit. For consumers, it is difficult to tell that one product has an evidence base and the other is fantasy. The MHRA appear to adopt labelling policies that <a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2010/01/mhra-and-labelling-of-homeopathic.html" target="_blank">deliberately obscure</a> the nature of homeopathic remedies and give ‘approval marks’ to unproven herbal remedies.</p>
<p>When it comes to actually upholding what regulations exist, the MHRA appear to take a ‘<a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2011/07/ainsworths-pharmacy.html" target="_blank">see no evil’</a> approach. The blogger Warhelmet is doing an <a href="http://landtimforgot.blogspot.com/2011/09/medicines-homoeopathic-medicinal.html" target="_blank">excellent job</a> at the moment of showing how homeopathic manufacturers appear to operate regardless of regulations.</p>
<p>A group of medics and researchers (all members of <a href="http://www.healthwatch-uk.org/" target="_blank">Healthwatch</a>) have <a href="http://www.bmj.com/content/343/bmj.d5572/reply" target="_blank">written to the BMJ</a> this week expressing their deepening concern that the MHRA are “clothing naked quackery and legitimising pseudoscience”.</p>
<p>What has initiated this letter is the recent advertisement for ‘experts’ to sit on a <a href="https://www.appointments.org.uk/JobDetails.aspx/1559/Advisory_Board_on_the_Registration_of_Homeopathic_Products_4_Members?Lang=1" target="_blank">Advisory Board</a> to consider the registration of homeopathic products. The job specification calls for homeopaths who are “recognised by their peers as eminent members of their profession”. The problem is obvious. If you believe nonsense, how can you be an expert? As I have <a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2011/01/when-the-regulator-believes-in-fairies-who-protects-the-public.html" target="_blank">written recently</a>, when the regulator believes in fairies, who protects the public?</p>
<p>Here is their letter in full.</p>
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<h4>Good value for money?</h4>
<ul>
<li>Susan Bewley, Obstetric consultant</li>
<li>Nick Ross, Alain Braillon, Edzard Ernst, John Garrow, Les Rose, Diana Brahams, Michael Baum, Vincent Marks, Keith Isaacs, James May Kings Health Partners, SE1 7EH</li>
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<p>At a time of austerity cuts, when treatments that work should be protected, it was depressing to see the Government&#8217;s Advisory Board on the Registration of Homeopathic Products advertising for four expert and &#8220;eminent members of their profession&#8221; who can &#8220;assimilate complex scientific information&#8221; to advise about the &#8220;safety and quality of homeopathic medicines&#8221; [1]. For this they will be paid £325/day.</p>
<p>Homeopathy has definitively and repeatedly been proven to work no better than placebo or nocebo. It is, in short, bogus. Professionals with faith-based (rather than evidence or science-based) beliefs in homeopathy may be recognised as eminent by their peers only in so far as those peers think likewise. Indeed, the job specification specifically precludes proper scientists and sceptical lay people since it requires applicants to take homeopathy seriously. In particular, why is a pharmacist expert in pharmacognosy (medicines derived from natural sources) required to advise about products that vanish after multiple dilutions? The appointment procedure begs several questions of public policy. The scientific community will be at best bemused and at worst outraged over this ill-conceived process.</p>
<p>What possible purpose does this Board serve &#8211; other than to clothe naked quackery and legitimise pseudoscience?</p>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.appointments.org.uk/JobDetails.aspx/1559/Advisory_Board_on_the_Registration_of_Homeopathic_Products_4_Members?Lang=1">https://www.appointments.org.uk/JobDetails.aspx/1559/Advisory_Board_on_the_Registration_of_Homeopathic_Products_4_Members?Lang=1</a> (accessed 5th September 2011)</p>
<p>Competing interests: All the authors belong to Healthwatch-UK (a charity which promotes evidence-based treatment http://www.healthwatch-uk.org/). NR is the President of HealthWatch and a trustee of Sense About Science (which promotes, well&#8230; sense about science)</p></blockquote>


<br/><br/><p>Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2010/01/mhra-and-labelling-of-homeopathic.html' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: The MHRA and the Labeling of Homeopathic Products'>The MHRA and the Labeling of Homeopathic Products</a> <small> Further documents have been published after the House of Commons held its enquiry into the evidence base for government policy on homeopathy. There are some real treats in there,...</small></li>
<li><a href='http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/09/kaloba-cold-cure-how-mhra-condones.html' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Kaloba Cold Cure: How the MHRA condones quackery'>Kaloba Cold Cure: How the MHRA condones quackery</a> <small>The newspapers today were delighting in reporting that a new cold treatment was being made available to us in Britian. Kaloba is an extract of the geranium Pelargonium sidoides, and...</small></li>
<li><a href='http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2011/02/the-homeopaths-desperate-campaign-to-the-mhra.html' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: The Homeopaths&#8217; Desperate Campaign to the MHRA'>The Homeopaths&#8217; Desperate Campaign to the MHRA</a> <small> More leaks from homeopathy land… Tomorrow is the last day that you can submit a response to the MHRA regarding how they should regulate the sale of homeopathic products...</small></li>
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		<title>When the Regulator Believes in Fairies, Who Protects the Public?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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It would appear to be a common mistake in the regulation of alternative medicine to assume that those trained in the subject, and who practice it, can be considered experts in the subject. And that those experts can help formulate good regulatory practices.
The nature of expertise has plagued philosophers since the time of Plato, whose [...]

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Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/05/neals-yard-remedies-rapped-by-medicines.html' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Neal&#8217;s Yard Remedies &#8216;rapped by medicines regulator&#8217;'>Neal&#8217;s Yard Remedies &#8216;rapped by medicines regulator&#8217;</a> <small>In a recent post, I described how Neal&#8217;s Yard Remedies had withdrawn their Malaria homeopathy pills. Their press release said, as this is obviously a contentious issue which is causing...</small></li>
<li><a href='http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2010/11/chiropractors-at-war-with-their-regulator-the-gcc.html' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Chiropractors at War with their Regulator, the GCC'>Chiropractors at War with their Regulator, the GCC</a> <small>From Richard Lanigan’s blog, we learn that the head of the four chiropractic associations have written to the GCC to state that their members have no confidence in their regulatory...</small></li>
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<p>It would appear to be a common mistake in the regulation of alternative medicine to assume that those trained in the subject, and who practice it, can be considered experts in the subject. And that those experts can help formulate good regulatory practices.</p>
<p>The nature of expertise has plagued philosophers since the time of Plato, whose Socratic dialogues explored how you could tell a doctor from a quack. Plato struggled with a solution and concluded that being wise was not enough; you also needed to be a physician to spot another true physician.</p>
<p>This is a rather unsatisfactory conclusion, as it leaves non-physicians unable to recognise expertise, and so liable to exploitation by quacks. Pragmatic solutions to this problem are central to many of the themes of this blog. However, without diving into an full examination of the tricky philosophical nature of recognising expertise, let us take the view that expertise involves holding a substantial body of true beliefs about a domain of knowledge and that the weight of their true beliefs is greater than their false beliefs.</p>
<p>From this perspective, we can see that people who believe in and practice homeopathy, chiropractic, herbalism and acupuncture cannot be considered experts since the major beliefs in these systems can quite easily be shown to false. If you believe that homeopathic sugar pills can have specific therapeutic effects then you simply cannot be considered an expert in such matters as this is straightforwardly untrue. If you believe that illness is caused by chiropractic subluxations in the spine then your expertise must be in question as there is no good evidence to suggest this is correct. If you believe that individualised concoctions of herbs can treat specific illness then your beliefs are contradicted by the evidence base.</p>
<p>This point appears to go over the head of various regulators in the UK.</p>
<p>In the past few weeks we have seen that the <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12153074">General Pharmaceutical Council</a> dropped cases against pharmacists that were caught in a 2006 BBC Newsnight sting selling sugar pills as protection against malaria to a student going to Africa. The actions of these pharmacists quite simply would put the lives of people at risk of dying through their beliefs in the magic of homeopathy. The GPhC says that the pharmacists concerned had given reassurances that “remedial action” had been taken to prevent the situation happening again. To their embarrassment, the <a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2011/01/in-five-years-the-society-of-homeopaths-have-learnt-nothing.html">BBC repeated the sting</a> the same week and found homeopathy-believing pharmacists dishing out sugar pills to prevent malaria again. It is likely that this four year investigation will re-open to the shame of the pharmacists’ regulator.</p>
<p>The reasons why the cases were dropped do not hold water. What influence other homeopaths had is not known. But it is worth noting that a previous president of the Royal Pharmaceutical Society, the immediate forerunner of the recently reorganised regulator, was <a href="http://www.dcscience.net/?p=233">Christine Glover</a>, who has now retired to run her homeopathic pharmacy. That a homeopath can have held such prominent positions in an organisation charged with protecting the public from unsafe practices is extraordinary.</p>
<p>The General Chiropractic Council are also going through regulatory tortures of their own making. After the British Chiropractic Association unsuccessfully tried to sue science writer Simon Singh for pointing out in the Guardian that their claims that magically cracking spines could cure childhood conditions such as colic and asthma, hundreds of complaints were made to the regulator about chiropractors making similar claims.</p>
<div class='pullquote'>How could the regulator then find their members guilty of making misleading claims when the regulator had given the green light to such claims?</div>
<p>The problem is for the regulator is that they themselves had issued leaflets saying that chiropractic could treat such conditions, no doubt on the advice of chiropractors on various committees within the regulator. How could the regulator then find their members guilty of making misleading claims when the regulator had given the green light to such claims? As such, <a href="http://www.zenosblog.com/2010/12/humpty-dumpty-regulation/">the adjudications</a> on the first cases heard appear to be more about saving the face of the regulator than protecting the public from chiropractors with deluded beliefs.</p>
<p>Within government, including those with pseudoscientific beliefs in positions where expertise is vital is not restricted to regulatory bodies. When formulating  policy on drugs, ministers are obligated to take into account the views of a statutory advisory body. Professor David Nutt, chairman of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7876425.stm">gave a lecture</a> on how the harms to society from young people riding horses as a hobby were similar to the harms caused by taking the drug ecstasy. Both present risks to people engaging in these activities. As a result, Nutt was <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8334774.stm">sacked</a> by the Home Secretary. Several other members of the advisory committee resigned in protest of the sacking of an independent scientific advisor for merely expressing an opinion about evidence of harms.</p>
<p>We have a new government now and <a href="http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/media-centre/press-releases/acmd-members">new appointments</a> have been made. The first is an <a href="http://www.sarahgrahamsolutions.com/">expert</a> in needles. Unfortunately, not the sort of needles that drug users use, but acupuncture needles. One has to wonder how someone who might believe that inserting needles in people can unblock ‘chi’ within ‘meridians’ and cure various conditions could have a robust approach to evidence, however, fortunately, Sarah Graham appears to have some reasonable views on young people and drugs.</p>
<p>The same cannot be said for another appointment. GP, Dr Hans-Christian Raabe, is a <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.christianparty.org.uk/EuropeanElection09/aboutus/raabe.html">member</a> of the bizarre political party, the Christian Party which has a “zero tolerance” policy towards drug use. He is also a member of the Maranatha Community, a Christian lobbying group that has written <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.maranathacommunity.org.uk/search.aspx?search=drugs">several papers</a> trying to change government policy on drug law. Last night I tweeted some quotes from Raabe on his views on drugs:</p>
<ul>
<li>Lack of religious commitment is a risk factor for drug abuse.</li>
<li>Harm-reduction actually encourages rather than prevents drug misuse.</li>
<li>Spiritual/religious involvement predicts fewer problems with alcohol.</li>
<li>Religious resources may serve as a potentially important ally in promoting health.</li>
<li>Encourage NICE to look at studies involving spirituality and drug prevention.</li>
<li>Need to look at the impact of interventions to strengthen the two-parent family</li>
<li>Too much attention has been given to the militant lobby groups which urge the legalisation of drugs or the adoption of ‘harm reduction’.</li>
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<p>Most worryingly is Raabe’s belief that a strategy of looking at the relative harms of various drugs and so devising strategies to minimise harm from them is counterproductive. Raabe’s faith-based conviction is that drugs are inherently wrong and so any policy that might overlook less harmful activities is wrong. When David Nutt was sacked for expressing views on relative harm, we were angry that government was ignoring the advice of its advisors. Now we find ourselves hoping they do.</p>
<div class='pullquote'>When David Nutt was sacked for expressing views on relative harm, we were angry that government was ignoring the advice of its advisors. Now we find ourselves hoping they do.</div>
<p>The MHRA is the government body charged with protecting the public from medical drugs and devices that are unsafe or do not work as described. Through loopholes in legislation, homeopathic medicines can be given a license without providing evidence of efficacy. Instead, absurd accounts of homeopathic rituals called ‘provings’ can be used to justify claims.</p>
<p>At the moment the MHRA are evaluating license applications for a number of products including a <a href="http://links.govdelivery.com/track?type=click&amp;enid=bWFpbGluZ2lkPTExNjc5NjMmbWVzc2FnZWlkPVBSRC1CVUwtMTE2Nzk2MyZkYXRhYmFzZWlkPTEwMDEmc2VyaWFsPTEyNzY3MjY0MTkmZW1haWxpZD1hbmR5QHNjYWxpLWxld2lzLm5ldCZ1c2VyaWQ9YW5keUBzY2FsaS1sZXdpcy5uZXQmZmw9JmV4dHJhPU11bHRpdmFyaWF0ZUlkPSYmJg==&amp;&amp;&amp;101&amp;&amp;&amp;http://www.mhra.gov.uk/home/idcplg?IdcService=GET_FILE&amp;dDocName=CON105795&amp;RevisionSelectionMethod=Latest&amp;noSaveAs=0&amp;Rendition=WEB">sugar pill</a> that is labelled that it can treat nicotine withdrawal, and another <a href="http://links.govdelivery.com/track?type=click&amp;enid=bWFpbGluZ2lkPTExNjc5NjgmbWVzc2FnZWlkPVBSRC1CVUwtMTE2Nzk2OCZkYXRhYmFzZWlkPTEwMDEmc2VyaWFsPTEyNzY3MjY0MjEmZW1haWxpZD1hbmR5QHNjYWxpLWxld2lzLm5ldCZ1c2VyaWQ9YW5keUBzY2FsaS1sZXdpcy5uZXQmZmw9JmV4dHJhPU11bHRpdmFyaWF0ZUlkPSYmJg==&amp;&amp;&amp;101&amp;&amp;&amp;http://www.mhra.gov.uk/home/idcplg?IdcService=GET_FILE&amp;dDocName=CON105796&amp;RevisionSelectionMethod=Latest&amp;noSaveAs=0&amp;Rendition=WEB">sugar pill</a> claiming to treat flu-like symptoms. From the outset we can be quite certain that the pills contain no active ingredient (such is the nature of homeopathic ultra-dilution) and that they cannot achieve the claims made of them. However, the brief minutes show that various experts are evaluating these claims and considering awarding a license.</p>
<p>Amongst these experts is homeopath Mr David Needleman BScPharm MRPharmS LCH MARH RHom FBIH. Needleman is a founder of the splinter homeopathic group, the Alliance of Registered Homeopaths. He has set up a <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.homeopathyhelpline.com/consultations.html">homeopathic telephone helpline</a> for ‘acute conditions’ that tells callers, after a consultation for £1.50 per minute, what the label on the sugar pills prescribed ought to say.</p>
<p>The Alliance is a strange organisation that broke away from the Society of Homeopaths because it wanted its members to practice how they best feel without interference. You can appreciate the extreme emerging views of such a group by visiting the web site of Needleman’s co-Director, Steve Scrutton, as he rants <a rel="nofollow" href="http://safe-medicine.blogspot.com/">barely coherently</a> about the ‘evils’ of modern medicine, vaccines and the money grabbing ways of doctors. His advice on everything from <a rel="nofollow" href="http://safe-medicine.blogspot.com/2010/06/cancer-and-homeopathy.html">cancer</a> to vaccine avoidance can at best be describes as thoroughly irresponsible.</p>
<p>Even stranger is another advisor on the MHRA committee. Dr Micahel Evans is a GP who is one of the UK’s most prominent advocates of anthroposophical medicine. This is a belief system first advocated by mystic Rudolf Steiner. Advocates of anthroposophical medicine have to first train in mainstream techniques but then their training is ‘enhanced’ by Steinerist beliefs in “spiritual science” where science is supposedly extended by belief in the ‘life element’ and mystical ways of knowing the truth. Dr Evans will not just treat the material body, but will also take into account the ego, astral and etheric realms of being. Steinerism infiltrates many aspects of life including the rather disturbing Steiner Waldorf schools that operate with some shocking beliefs that they would rather you did not know about, as has been <a href="http://www.dcscience.net/?p=3528">explored in depth</a> on the dcscience blog.</p>
<p>Whilst using conventional medical techniques, anthroposophists use their spiritual beliefs to wedge in various forms of pseudo-medicinal techniques such as their versions of homeopathy, herbalism and hydrotherapy. In his book, he tells us such things as “HIV destroys the bodies ability to be a suitable vehicle for the ego, or spirit”. On treatments, his passage on treating a female with depression, shows the nature of anthroposophical thinking,</p>
<blockquote><p>The kidney&#8217;s association with the astral body makes it come to mind when a patient presents severe symptoms of anxiety and agitation. … With the kidney specifically in mind, copper ointment was applied over the kidney region and a homeopathic preparation of naturally occurring copper oxide, Curpite D6, was given orally. She also had mustard footbaths… Her depression was treated with a liver medicine, Stannum per Taraxicum (tin potentised using dandelion.)</p></blockquote>
<p>As well as the homeopathy advisory board, Evans <a href="http://www.mhra.gov.uk/NewsCentre/Pressreleases/CON062948">also sits</a> on the Herbal Medicines Advisory Committee. Quite what influence Needleman and Evans have over the decision making process within the MHRA is difficult to ascertain. The MHRA say in their minutes of the meeting that information discussed will be withheld under Section 43 of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.</p>
<div class='pullquote'>The MHRA weighs the commercial interests of those wishing to profit from blatantly misleading medical claims over the public right to know how it is being protected.</div>
<p>Section 43 is designed to protect trade secrets and commercial interests. It would appear that the MHRA weighs the commercial interests of those wishing to profit from blatantly misleading medical claims over the public right to know how it is being protected.</p>
<p>I could go on. The last government saw fit to bring in a form of self-regulation for a rag-bag of alternative medicines in the form of the Complementary and Natural Health Care Council. Its basic idea was that the public could be protected if Ofquack, as it has become known, could validate that practitioners had been ‘properly trained’ in their techniques. Complaints about misleading claims have been met with <a href="http://adventuresinnonsense.blogspot.com/2009/11/cnhc-wishes-to-place-on-formal-record_27.html">absurd judgements</a> where the regulator recognises the claims are untrue but were made because that is how the practitioners were trained. Hence, “fitness to practice was not impaired”.</p>
<p>At the heart of the problem is the various authorities inability to make judgements on what is science and what is pseudoscience. Indeed it has <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2009/oct/21/pseudoscience">recently said</a> that &#8220;The government does not find it helpful to define pseudoscience”. Admittedly, there are indeed difficulties about drawing sharp ontological boundaries around science and pseudoscience. However that does not mean that such categories do not exist. Just as it is not possible to categorise all times of the day into day and night does not mean day and night do not exist and that it is not helpful to draw a distinction.</p>
<p>Homeopathy is classic pseudoscience. As are most forms of alternative medicine. Being cowardly in saying so risks peoples health, defrauds them by allowing government endorsement of useless products and undermines our regulators abilities to carry out their duties to protect the public.</p>
<p>Recognising that training is not the same as expertise would be a good first step. Real expertise comes from critical thinking and having an ability to understand the limitations of personal knowledge. Those are attributes that are nearly non-existent amongst practitioners of the pseudo-medical cults.</p>


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		<title>10:23, Homeopathy and the Shame of the Pharmacy Profession</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[ This Saturday, hundreds of people, in many cities,  will be demonstrating outside Boots the Chemists about their selling of homeopathic remedies. Each volunteer will be taking a homeopathic ‘overdose’ of a Boots homeopathy product to demonstrate that there is nothing in the tablets but sugar.
Out of all the volunteer ‘overdosers’ and their supporters in [...]

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_vvrFE7Rxtr0/S18CU7TFUSI/AAAAAAAADM0/NKdgBC3g3h4/s1600-h/apothecary%5B7%5D.gif"><img style="margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px; display: inline; border-width: 0px;" title="apothecary" src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_vvrFE7Rxtr0/S18CVtHUxFI/AAAAAAAADM4/g9je507V6NU/apothecary_thumb%5B5%5D.gif?imgmax=800" border="0" alt="apothecary" width="232" height="244" align="left" /></a> This Saturday, hundreds of people, in many cities,  will be demonstrating outside Boots the Chemists about their selling of homeopathic remedies. Each volunteer will be taking a homeopathic ‘overdose’ of a Boots homeopathy product to demonstrate that there is nothing in the tablets but sugar.</p>
<p>Out of all the volunteer ‘overdosers’ and their supporters in the <a href="http://www.1023.org.uk/">10:23 campaign</a>, there may well be many reasons for taking part. The homeopaths think this is a <a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2010/01/meaning-of-1023-homeopathy-campaign.html">conspiracy by Big Pharma</a> and that the demonstration proves nothing. They are entirely missing the point. But the main point, and the one I would emphasise, is that this mass overdose is designed to embarrass the pharmacists who sell these pills to the public in the full knowledge that they are useless.</p>
<p>The pharmacy profession has been granted statutory privileges to dispense medicines to the public.</p>
<div class="pullquote">Perhaps the biggest effect of the demonstration will be to raise some awareness of what your local ‘scientist on the high street’ is prepared to sell you.</div>
<p>They do so under a <a href="http://www.dcscience.net/?p=233">code of practice</a> that insists they do act with ‘honesty and integrity’, that they do not ‘exploit the vulnerability or lack of knowledge of others’, and that they “provide accurate and impartial information to ensure that [they] you do not mislead others or make claims that cannot be justified”</p>
<p>When pharmacists on the high street accept cash for homeopathic pseudo-medicines that promise to relieve their customers of hay fever symptoms, help insomnia, or sooth a baby’s teething pain, they appear to be ignoring their professional standards in the pursuit of profits.</p>
<p>The pharmacists have evolved from the ancient protected trade of apothecaries. Since the middle ages, the state has afforded certain privileges to apothecaries to formulate and dispense medicines. Historically, these privileges have been seen as a restraint on trade by outsiders wishing to cash in on people’s desires for medicine, and as a <a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/12/meddling-princes-medical-regulation-and.html">necessary state</a> by their supporters against rogues, quacks and charlatans.</p>
<p>Indeed, Samuel Hahnemann, the founder of homeopathy had a very unhappy relationship with apothecaries. He felt he was being persecuted by them for allowing people to dispense their own cures. But deeper than that, his philosophy of homeopathy made it impossible for a person to simply walk into a high street store, select a remedy they required and ask an apothecary to make it up for them. Homeopathy had to be ‘individualised’ to the patient, and this was something only a skilled homeopath could do – and not some mere dispenser of medicines.</p>
<p>Indeed, in an <a href="http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=wf2vl2ch9a4C&amp;lpg=PA284&amp;ots=pAli80bwNM&amp;dq=Haehl%2C%20R.%3A%20'Samuel%20Hahnemann.'&amp;pg=PA201#v=onepage&amp;q=examination&amp;f=false">exam paper</a> that Hahnemann set for a doctor who wanted to practice Homeopathy, the tenth question, in leading terms, made this quite clear,</p>
<blockquote><p>10. Why can the homoeopathic medicines never be dispensed by the apothecary without injury to the public?</p></blockquote>
<p>Any true homeopathic practitioner should object strongly to the idea of a mere dispensing chemist handing out homeopathic cures.</p>
<p>But his objections also recognised the direct conflict between both the financial needs of the apothecary and the nature of their beliefs and training.</p>
<p>In a letter to a friend, Hahnemann <a href="http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=_LDLRlWQIo4C&amp;dq=For%20these%20and%20other%20reasons%20it%20would%20be%20impossible%20to%20derive%20any%20assistance%20from%20an%20apothecary%20in%20the%20practice%20of%20Homoeopathy&amp;pg=PA165#v=onepage&amp;q=For%20these%20and%20other%20reasons%20it%20would%20be%20impossible%20to%20derive%20any%20assistance%20from%20an%20apothecary%20in%20the%20practice%20of%20Homoeopathy&amp;f=false">wrote</a>,</p>
<blockquote><p>I do not wish to go to the town of Altenburg itself, to be in the way of you, dearest friend, and of your colleagues. I only wish to be able to settle in some country town or market village, where the post may facilitate my connexion with distant parts, and where I may not be annoyed by the pretensions of any apothecary, because, as you know, the pure practice of this art can only employ such minute weapons, such small doses of medicine, that no apothecary could supply them profitably, and owing to the mode in which he has learnt and has always carried on his business, he could not help viewing the whole affair as something ludicrous, and consequently turning the public and the patients into ridicule.</p>
<p>For these and other reasons it would be impossible to derive any assistance from an apothecary in the practice of homoeopathy.</p></blockquote>
<p>As is often the case, Samuel Hahnemann is spectacularly wrong in the most interesting ways.</p>
<p>Firstly, Hahnemann appears to believe that you can only sell a medicinal product in proportion to the amount of substance you are vending. Indeed, as the amount of substance is proportionate to its effects, then this would be a common sense view. However, the absurdity of homeopathy is that it subverts the obvious. Hahnemann postulated that the more dilute a substance, the greater the effects. (A claim never substantiated, of course).</p>
<p>However, Boots the Chemist, and other modern day apothecaries understand that what it is in the pill is irrelevant. What the pharmacists in Boots are selling is not the substance of the pills (as there is quite simply nothing in homeopathic remedies bar the sugar), but a promise based on both the trusted brand of Boots and the professional standing of pharmacists.</p>
<p><a href="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_vvrFE7Rxtr0/S18CWKBWChI/AAAAAAAADM8/dpnFB1VxCBs/s1600-h/boots%20teething%20powders%5B2%5D.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px; display: inline; border-width: 0px;" title="boots teething powders" src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_vvrFE7Rxtr0/S18CWoge9ZI/AAAAAAAADNA/ATLYru2SCxM/boots%20teething%20powders_thumb.jpg?imgmax=800" border="0" alt="boots teething powders" width="168" height="225" align="left" /></a> And with that trust in the Boots brand and the authority of the pharmacist nearby behind the counter, you can charge quite a lot for worthless sugar pills. Boots homeopathic Teething Pain Relief powders contain less than 1 part in a trillion of active ingredient (and there is not even any evidence that the active ingredient does anything). They sell for nearly £5. This pseudo-medicine will do nothing for a distressed baby apart from make the parent think they are doing something and make Boots shareholders a little richer.</p>
<p>The professional code of ethics of a pharmacists would suggest that they are required to provide the customer with all the “necessary and relevant information”. It is surely necessary to inform someone that they are buying a worthless product that cannot work as described and there is no reason to suppose it does. Pharmacists must fall into two camps here: those that believe that homeopathic preparations do work as described, in which case they are simply incompetent, and those that shut up for fear of their jobs and for an easy life.</p>
<p>As David Colquhoun noted some time ago, the <a href="http://www.dcscience.net/?p=233">real villains</a> here are the regulators of the pharmacy trade, the Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain. They issue advice to their members about how to interpret their code of ethics when selling homeopathic quackery (under the ironic heading ‘Pharmacists &#8211; the scientists in the high street’), and what advice to give to the public. Nowhere does it suggest that you ought to tell the customer that they are buying magic pseudo-medicine.</p>
<p>To add to the rogues’ gallery we must also add the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (the MHRA) who <a href="Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (the MHRA)">grant licenses to homeopathic sellers</a> to make claims for their products that cannot be justified by any form of evidence or rationale. They preside over a regime that has allowed the pseudo-apothecaries, such as <a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/04/neals-yard-remedies-offers-lethal.html">Neal’s Yard Remedies</a> to sell homeopathic pills for the prevention of malaria. Their light touch on the issue appears to almost offer <a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/09/mhra-and-their-double-failure-over.html">a wink to the sellers</a> that they can get away with anything.</p>
<p>The 10:23 campaign will almost certainly not stop Boots selling this quackery. There is too much money in it. Perhaps the biggest effect of the demonstration will be to raise some awareness of what your local ‘scientist on the high street’ is prepared to sell you. This should make you angry that your trust is being abused. If you cannot trust them to tell the simple truth about such obvious nonsense as homeopathy, why should you trust them on more important matters, such as the side effects of real medicines?</p>
<p>I shall leave my last words to repeat those Samuel Hahnemann, who showed some unusual insight when he said that,</p>
<blockquote><p>he [the pharmacist] could not help viewing the whole affair [homeopathy] as something ludicrous, and consequently turning the public and the patients into ridicule.</p></blockquote>
<p>And that is the pharmacists’ shame: using their trusted position to make fools of the public.</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[ Further documents have been published after the House of Commons held its enquiry into the evidence base for government policy on homeopathy. There are some real treats in there, but I am most concerned about new evidence from the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (the MHRA) on how they test the public’s understanding [...]

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_vvrFE7Rxtr0/S1ClEHvaOqI/AAAAAAAADMc/BRFKctzilKk/s1600-h/kentwoods%5B4%5D.gif"><img style="display: inline; margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px; border: 0px;" title="kentwoods" src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_vvrFE7Rxtr0/S1ClEgZNHEI/AAAAAAAADMg/mGV7WmdX2Bg/kentwoods_thumb%5B2%5D.gif?imgmax=800" border="0" alt="kentwoods" width="150" height="150" align="left" /></a> Further documents have been published after the House of Commons held its enquiry into the evidence base for government policy on homeopathy. There are some real <a href="http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmsctech/memo/homeopathy/contents.htm">treats</a> in there, but I am most concerned about new evidence from the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (the MHRA) on how they test the public’s understanding of the labeling of homeopathic products.</p>
<p>The new document was submitted to the enquiry after Professor Kent Woods (pictured) was challenged over how the regulator allows homeopathic products to make claims on their labels when it is known that these claims are false. The concern is that a customer could walk into Boots the Chemist and see two products for, say, hayfever and be unaware that the homeopathic product has no active ingredient, is just a sugar pill and will not help the relief of any symptoms. Clearly, this is a very unsatisfactory situation, where the medicines regulator is charged with ensuring medicines are safe and do what they claim but appears to wave homeopathic products through without regard to these principles. The public are being badly misled by the people charged with protecting them.</p>
<p>In the enquiry, Evan Harris MP asked a very <a href="http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmsctech/uc45-ii/uc4502.htm">pertinent question</a> of Professor Woods,</p>
<blockquote><p>Do you think that people reading that will think that it works for symptomatic relief of those minor conditions, or do you think that label that you have read out &#8211; and please feel free to read it out again &#8211; would make the average person think, which is the truth, as far as you are concerned, that there is no evidence of efficacy backing it up. Which of those two do you think is most likely, for the average person?</p></blockquote>
<p>At is issue is the question of how far the MHRA go to ensure that the public are not being misled by the labeling they authorize on homeopathic products.</p>
<p>Professor Woods response was,</p>
<blockquote><p>Well, fortunately, by law all packaging and patient information leaflets are subjected to user testing to ensure that they are comprehensible to the man in the street, and indeed that seems to be a very straightforward statement of the reality. This is a homeopathic medicinal product used within the homeopathic tradition for the symptomatic relief of sprains, muscular aches and bruising or swelling after contusions. That is what it says and the user testing is part of the approval of that leaflet, has the labeling been tested on the average man in the street.</p></blockquote>
<p>This did not satisfy the MP, Dr Harris,</p>
<blockquote><p>Sadly my question was not &#8220;What does it say? Has it been tested?&#8221; My question is, and maybe it is the result of this testing and you need to tell me, does the average person think that that label suggests that it is going to be useful for the symptomatic relief of those indications?</p></blockquote>
<p>This is an important question. Does the MHRA care if the public are misled by homeopathic labeling or not? What do people make of the labels?</p>
<p>The new documents posted on the House of Commons web site shed light on this question.</p>
<p>It is worth reporoducing the test questions that are used to establish what people make of the labeling on a homeopathic product:</p>
<blockquote><p>Three rounds of user testings were carried out with ten participants in each testing. Twelve questions relating to the key safety messages were asked and were designed to assess whether the respondent was able to find the information, understand it and use the information. The questions asked were as follows:</p>
<p>1. Can you tell me the name of this medicine?</p>
<p>2. What does the label say that this medicine is for?</p>
<p>3. If you take too much of this product (overdose) what does the label tell you to do?</p>
<p>4. Is there any advice on the label for women who are pregnant or breast feeding?</p>
<p>5. What does the label say is the active ingredient in this medicine?</p>
<p>6. If you have missed a dose of this medicine, what does the label tell you to do?</p>
<p>7. Once you have opened your medicine, how does the leaflet tell you that you should store it?</p>
<p>8. This medicine contains Arnica Montana 30C. What are the other ingredients in this medicine?</p>
<p>9. How many pillules are there in the Clikpak container?</p>
<p>10. This medicine contains lactose and sucrose which are types of sugar. If you have an intolerance to some sugars, what does the pack tell you to do before taking this product?</p>
<p>11. How many pillules does the pack say that you should take in a dose and how many times a day should you take them?</p>
<p>12. The pillules in this medicine are contained in a plastic Clikpak to help protect them. What instructions does the label give you as to how to dispense the pillules from the Clikpak?</p></blockquote>
<p>These questions fail to address the central concern that labeling homeopathic products for the relief of specific symptoms is going to mislead patients into thinking that there is reason to believe this is true and that there is evidence to back up the stated claims. In my opinion, the MHRA is complicit in supporting a fraud on the public.</p>
<p>Question 2 is quite insidious in my view. It tests to see if the subject understands the medicine is targeted at specific conditions, when there is no evidence to suggest that the medicine can help. What would the answer to the question mean?  Question 5 implies there is an active ingredient in the pill. If the test subject answered ‘Arnica’ would the MHRA conclude that the patient has been deceived by the packaging or has just read the label and concluded that it is telling the truth?</p>
<p>Question 8 explicitly states that the pill contains “Arnica Montana 30C”. Only someone with a good understanding of the nonsensical production methods of homeopathy would appreciate that this means that the pill does not contain any Arnica (it has all been diluted away). What would the average customer on the street conclude? In the original hearing, Professor Woods states that the labeling is designed for people who believe in homeopathy,</p>
<blockquote><p>To begin with the fact that this is a homeopathic remedy, we are making provision for a group of people who believe in homeopathic remedies and, therefore, the first thing to establish is that this particular remedy is recognised by homeopathic practitioners as a homeopathic remedy. That is the essence of what we are trying to prove.</p></blockquote>
<div class="pullquote">The mistake that all regulatory efforts from this government has made is to attempt to regulate alternative medicines as if they were medicines.</div>
<p>This is simple nonsense, as the products are likely to end up on the shelves of Boots where people may simply misread ‘homeopathic’ as ‘natural’ rather than ‘batshit magic pseudo-medicine’,  the wording that ought to be on the label.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/neals_yard_malaria-723827.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1736" title="neals_yard_malaria-723827" src="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/neals_yard_malaria-723827-225x300.jpg" alt="" width="158" height="210" /></a>The MHRA appear to completely miss the point over homeopathy. As I have <a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/09/mhra-and-their-double-failure-over.html">written before</a>, they fail twice over. Firstly, they endorse misleading labels on homeopathic products and fail in their primary mission to “ensure that medicines and medical devices work.” Secondly, they appear to be blind to the blatant abuses that do go on in the creation of homeopathic medicines where claims are made explicitly and implicitly without even seeking MHRA approval.</p>
<p>The mistake that all regulatory efforts from this government has made is to attempt to regulate alternative medicines as if they were medicines. They are not: they are pseudo-medicines and need a different style of thinking. Trading Standards should take a more leading role in prosecuting misleading claims as they would with any other consumer product. The MHRA need to stop feeling they need to treat homeopathy as if it were medicine and give special dispensations in the claims that they can make. As with any other medicine, homeopathy should only be allowed to make claims if they can back them up with sound evidence.</p>
<p>I understand that there are some efforts within the MHRA to look into the issues I have raised with them. It has been several months since I last heard from the investigating officer involved. My first enquiry took 17 months for a response. In the meantime, I hope the the upcoming publication of the House of Commons Evidence Check report into homeopathy will be severely critical of them for presiding over a regulatory regime that endorses the homeopathic trade in misleading the public.</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[ The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) have been heavily criticised in recent years for abandoning their core mission by allowing homeopathic sugar pills to contain statements about what symptoms and illnesses they can be used for without having to provide evidence that this is true.
The MHRA mission and values:
Mission   The [...]

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_vvrFE7Rxtr0/SprdYdewg7I/AAAAAAAADJo/qUBaWCb1cSE/s1600-h/nelsons%5B2%5D.jpg"><img style="border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px" title="nelsons" border="0" alt="nelsons" align="left" src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_vvrFE7Rxtr0/SprdY3Gx-vI/AAAAAAAADJs/xq-n91PHjig/nelsons_thumb.jpg?imgmax=800" width="199" height="244" /></a> The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) have been <a href="http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/index.php/site/project/86" target="_blank">heavily</a> <a href="http://www.dcscience.net/?p=32" target="_blank">criticised</a> in recent years for abandoning their <a href="http://www.mhra.gov.uk/Aboutus/Whoweare/Ourmissionandvalues/index.htm" target="_blank">core mission</a> by <a href="http://www.mhra.gov.uk/Howweregulate/Medicines/Herbalandhomoeopathicmedicines/Homoeopathicmedicines/index.htm" target="_blank">allowing</a> homeopathic sugar pills to contain statements about what symptoms and illnesses they can be used for without having to provide evidence that this is true.</p>
<blockquote><p>The MHRA mission and values:</p>
<p><strong>Mission</strong>   <br />The MHRA’s mission is to enhance and safeguard the health of the public by ensuring that medicines and medical devices work, and are acceptably safe.</p>
<p><strong>Values</strong>   <br />In pursuing our mission we will strive to act with:</p>
<ul>
<li>integrity; </li>
<li>openness; </li>
<li>courtesy; </li>
<li>responsiveness; </li>
<li>timeliness; </li>
<li>professionalism; </li>
<li>impartiality; and </li>
<li>consistency. </li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p>The MHRA allow sellers to submit evidence from homeopathic ‘provings’ as evidence. A proving is where a homeopath takes a new type of homeopathic pill to see what symptoms it generates. Homeopaths believe ‘like cures like’, so an onion, which makes your eyes stream, can cure hayfever – allegedly. However, homeopathic pills have been so diluted that no ingredients actually remain. What homeopaths ‘prove’ is plain sugar pills – any symptoms they note are either coincidental or imaginary. This is the first failure of the MHRA to allow such nonsense methods to act as a guide to efficacy.</p>
<p>In order for a homeopathic pharmacy to make claims, they must submit the evidence from their provings. So, far few submissions have been made. And yet, homeopathic pharmacists continue to sell many sugar pills, with indications, with no license and apparently with impunity. Is the MHRA even failing to uphold its own rules?</p>
<p>I tested this out.</p>
<p>Over a year ago I was invited to speak at London’s Skeptics in the Pub. I chose to speak about the dilemmas of regulating quackery. As part of my preparation, I visited London’s Nelson’s Homeopathic Pharmacy just off Oxford Street. I went in and said I needed something for an upset stomach and that I had diarrhoea. “Do you have anything like Imodium?” I was told that the stuff they has would not just ‘suppress my symptoms’ but get to the bottom of my problem – so to speak.</p>
<p>I was handed a little green container of white sugar pills labelled ‘Traveller’s Diarrhoea’. The full label read:</p>
<blockquote><p align="center"><strong><u>TRAVELLER&#8217;S DIARRHOEA</u></strong></p>
<p align="center">RELIEVES SYMPTOMS OF DIARRHOEA &amp; VOMITING DUE TO</p>
<p align="center">CONSUMPTION OF UNWASHED FRUITS, VEGETABLES, BAD MEAT</p>
<p align="center">OR FISH. DOSAGE. TAKE 2 TABLETS EVERY HOUR UNTIL BETTER</p>
<p align="center">ARSENICUM 30/PODOPHYLUM 30/PYROGEN 6/CARBO VEG 30/NUX</p>
<p align="center">VOMICA 30</p>
<p align="center">EXP 12/12                              KEEP OUT OF CHILDRENS REACH</p>
<p align="center">NELSON&#8217;S HOMEOPATHIC PHARMACY</p>
<p align="center">73 DUKE STREET, LONDON W1K 5BY 020 7629 3118            P</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The number 30 is significant because it means the ingredients have been diluted to 1 part in 10 to the power of 60. (that is 30 sequential dilutions of 1 part in 100).  In other words – the pills I got were just plain sugar pills with no active ingredients.</p>
<p>Now, remember – like cures like. So being actually healthy at the time, if I had taken one of these pills I would have ‘proved’ the pill and developed the symptoms. Not wanting to do a crude experiment of n=1, during my talk at Skeptics in the Pub I handed them out to the crowd so that dozens of brave and selfless sceptics had the chance to develop a rather uncomfortable journey home.</p>
<p>We downed our pills, and thankfully, due to science, we all remained rather intact and the pub landlord did not have to clear up a rather horrible mess.</p>
<p>On the 28th of March 2008, I submitted an enquiry to the MHRA suggesting that this might be an illegal product as it had no marketing authorisation. On the 14th of April 2008 I was told that the case had been passed onto the MHRA&#8217;s Enforcement and Intelligence Group.</p>
<p>Now you may have noticed that the MHRA’s listed values include </p>
<ul>
<li><span style="color:#000000;">responsiveness; </span></li>
<li><span style="color:#000000;">timeliness; </span></li>
<li><span style="color:#000000;">professionalism; </span></li>
</ul>
<div align="left"><span style="color:#000000;">So, it may come as a bit of a shock when I say that I got an email response back last week that said (in its entirety),</span></div>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"> </span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#000000;">25th August 2009</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">I have been informed by our Enforcement Unit that an investigation has taken place in response to your complaint below. The outcome of the investigation is that following advice from the Enforcement Unit, Nelson&#8217;s have removed the product you mentioned from their display shelves.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">Regards,</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">Yes, timeliness in this case means 17 months.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">It may also come as a bit of a shock to find this product still for sale on </span><a href="http://www.nelsonshomeopathy.com/shop-online/The-Nelsons-Travellers-Companion_prod1731.aspx" target="_blank"><span style="color:#000000;">Nelson’s website.</span></a><span style="color:#000000;"> It may have been ‘removed from the shelves’ but is still advertised on the web. You can also see other similar products that are intended to cure constipation, accident &amp; injury, allergic reactions, bites &amp; stings, hangover &amp; indigestion, heat exhaustion, jet lag, and sun exposure. All the same sugar pill.</span></p>
<p>In fact, the Nelson’s web site is riddled with products that make specific claims and that do not appear to have any marketing authorisation.</p>
<p>Some examples:</p>
<ul>
<li>Migraine Headaches (Helps with migraine symptoms.) <a href="http://www.nelsonshomeopathy.com/shop-online/Migraine-Headaches_prod1628.aspx">http://www.nelsonshomeopathy.com/shop-online/Migraine-Headaches_prod1628.aspx</a> </li>
<li>Morning Sickness Relief (To help relieve symptoms of morning sickness&#8230;.) <a href="http://www.nelsonshomeopathy.com/shop-online/Morning-Sickness-Relief_prod1629.aspx">http://www.nelsonshomeopathy.com/shop-online/Morning-Sickness-Relief_prod1629.aspx</a> </li>
<li>PMT (To help relieve symptoms of premenstrual tension.) <a href="http://www.nelsonshomeopathy.com/shop-online/P.M.T._prod1634.aspx">http://www.nelsonshomeopathy.com/shop-online/P.M.T._prod1634.aspx</a> </li>
<li>Sore Throat (To help relieve symptoms of sore throat) <a href="http://www.nelsonshomeopathy.com/shop-online/Sore-Throat_prod1639.aspx">http://www.nelsonshomeopathy.com/shop-online/Sore-Throat_prod1639.aspx</a> </li>
<li>The Nelsons Quit Smoking Kit <a href="http://www.nelsonshomeopathy.com/shop-online/The-Nelsons-Quit-Smoking-Kit_prod1664.aspx">http://www.nelsonshomeopathy.com/shop-online/The-Nelsons-Quit-Smoking-Kit_prod1664.aspx</a> </li>
</ul>
<p>So, what’s the harm? On the face of it, all the consumer will be getting is some sugar pill placebos and so there can be no more harm than any other homeopathic remedy. But the harm comes when the purchaser may well be relying on specific effects. </p>
<p>We saw recently how <a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/04/neals-yard-remedies-offers-lethal.html">Neal’s Yard Remedies</a> were selling sugar pills to customers and telling them that these could prevent malaria. The BBC undertook an investigation and interviewed their ‘Medicines’ Director, who stormed out of the meeting after being asked if this was ethical and legal.</p>
<p>After the BBC forwarded on their evidence, the <a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/05/neals-yard-remedies-rapped-by-medicines.html">MHRA investigated</a> and slapped their wrists. That was it. Despite the appallingly irresponsible nature of Neal’s Yard behaviour the MHRA saw fit not to prosecute. I for one, was quite shocked.</p>
<p>The MHRA appear to be quite tolerant of homeopathic pharmacies sales processes. Why should this be? Could the MHRA think it not worth the effort to better police this sector? Are they under other influences to tread softly here?</p>
<p>I do not know. But the problem is deeper and more entrenched than even these problems suggest. Homeopaths are a group explicitly opposed to real medicine. They define their product in terms of direct opposition to medicine. From its first invention, homeopathy made grand claims to universality and having found the true philosophy of curing illness. All other approaches were heresy and to be opposed. This is what makes the vipers nest of homeopathy so insidious as a source of anti-scientific thinking about disease which leads to more widespread problems such the stubbornly unreasonable anti-vaccine movement.</p>
<p>We can see this foundation of anti-vaccine thinking in many homeopathic products. A large fraction of the Ainsworths medicine cabinet consists of homeopathic versions of vaccines. These are often in the form of what homeopaths call nosodes where some diseases tissue or some other ‘infectious’ agent is taken and serially diluted and shaken and probably <a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/04/modern-face-of-scientific-homeopathy.html">banged against a leather bible</a> many times to create the homeopathic witchcraft pill. Look at the <a href="http://www.ainsworths.com/site/combination.aspx">remedy lists</a> of Ainsworths and you will see a product for each Influenza strain going back 20 years. You will find homeopathic replacements for Measles vaccine, Parotitis vaccine (mumps) and Rubella. You find homeopathic sugar pills for all forms of Hepatitis, strains of TB, and Typhoid, as well as the usual comedy remedies such as shipwreck, trout and Ayres rock.</p>
<p>These products are making implicit claims to be alternatives to real vaccines. All of them are the same useless sugar pill pulled from the same large tub at Ainsworths, some hocus pocus spouted over them, bottled, labelled and shipped.</p>
<p>Why the MHRA do not prosecute for straightforward fraudulent trading I just do not know.</p>
<p>***********************************************************************************</p>
<p><b>Update</b></p>
<p>18th September 2009</p>
<p>Simon Perry from the excellent <a href="http://adventuresinnonsense.blogspot.com/">Adventures in Nonsense</a> blog wrote to the MHRA to see what their response to this criticism would be. I have also written, but not received a reply.</p>
</p>
<blockquote><p>Dear Mr Perry,   </p>
<p>Thank you for your recent enquiry to the MHRA and please accept our apologies for the wait you have experienced. We have liaised with our enforcement team and the investigator involved and we can confirm that our response to this blog post is as follows:</p>
<p>&#8220;This referral was allocated to an investigator and concluded by way of a compliance visit when the product was removed from the shelves. The matter of the product being available via the company internet site has been referred to our enforcement group to take the appropriate action.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please contact us again if you need further assistance with this, or any other queries.        </p>
<p>Kind Regards,</p>
<p>Ben, on behalf of the </p>
<p>Central Enquiry Point </p>
<p>Information Centre </p>
<p>Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency </p>
</blockquote>
<p>At the time of writting, Nelsons are still selling the product online.</p>


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		<title>There Goes My Knighthood</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Prince Charles&#8217; company, Duchy Originals, has today been told by the Advertising Standards Authority to stop making misleading and untruthful claims in its advertising and to not make claims for its detox products that it cannot substantiate. 
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Earlier in the year, Duchy Originals launched three new herbal tinctures. The launch was met with derision, [...]

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/uploaded_images/charlie-727790.JPG"><img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; width: 144px; float: left; height: 200px; cursor: hand" border="0" alt="" src="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/uploaded_images/charlie-727788.JPG" /></a> Prince Charles&#8217; company, Duchy Originals, <a href="http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/Public/TF_ADJ_46199.htm" target="_blank">has today been told</a> by the Advertising Standards Authority to stop making misleading and untruthful claims in its advertising and to not make claims for its detox products that it cannot substantiate. </div>
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<div>Earlier in the year, Duchy Originals launched three new herbal tinctures. The launch was met with derision, and claims that the Prince’s company was <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/4108958/Detox-product-claims-misleading.html" target="_blank">misleading</a> people into thinking that the products actually work. Edzard Ernst, Professor of complementary medicine at Exeter, <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7934568.stm" target="_blank">said that the claims</a> were based on &quot;outright quackery”.</div>
<div>&#160;</div>
<div>The adjudication by the ASA follows from a complaint I made regarding an email from Duchy Originals. That email advert claimed: </div>
<div>&#160;</div>
<blockquote><div>If you haven’t managed to escape the winter sniffles, look no further than our new <a href="http://email.largedesign.net/re?l=5sgmbgI1mc6g71Ig">Echina-Relief Tincture</a>, which offers natural relief from cold and flu symptoms. </div>
<div>&#160;</div>
<div>This week were celebrating the launch of our brand new Herbal Tinctures range. Our <a href="http://email.largedesign.net/re?l=5sgmbgI1mc6g71Im">Echinacea</a>, <a href="http://email.largedesign.net/re?l=5sgmbgI1mc6g71In">Hypericum</a> and <a href="http://email.largedesign.net/re?l=5sgmbgI1mc6g71Io">Detox</a> Tinctures provide alternative and natural ways of treating common ailments such as colds, low moods and digestive discomfort.       </div>
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<p>From the time I received the email to the time it was in the hands of the ASA was probably less than 120 seconds (a record I hope) thanks to their <a href="http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/how_to_complain/complaints_form/" target="_blank">online complaint submission form</a>. Investigating the claim took a little longer but now we can see the results of that investigation. I had complained that the company would not be able to substantiate the claims that these tinctures were&#160; effective.</p>
<p>Previously, Andrew Baker, the head of Duchy Originals, <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/4967749/Prince-Charles-is-exploiting-the-gullible-with-dodgy-detox-remedy-scientist-argues.html" target="_blank">had said</a> of the detox tincture, “It is not – and has never been described as – a medicine, remedy or cure for any disease”. It was my view that the email advert made explicit claims to be a “medicine, remedy or cure” by saying that it provided, with the other tinctures, “natural ways of treating common ailments such as colds, low moods and digestive discomfort.”</p>
<p>The ASA agreed with me that the advert was misleading and upheld one complaint against each of the three products mentioned. Specifically, the advert breached advertising codes on truthfulness, substantiation&#160; and the advertising of health and beauty products and therapies, and medicines.</p>
<p>This is not the first time that Duchy Originals has been censured over its tincture range. As I reported earlier (<a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/03/duchy-originals-pork-pies.html" target="_blank">Duchy Originals Pork Pies</a>), the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) had told Duchy Originals to <a href="http://www.mhra.gov.uk/Howweregulate/Medicines/Advertisingofmedicines/Advertisinginvestigations/CON041381" target="_blank">stop making claims</a> of efficacy for their products that cannot be substantiated after a complaint was made by the science group <a href="http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/index.php/site/other/299/" target="_blank">Voice of Young Science</a>.&#160; The Advertising Standards Authority have told me that the MHRA will also receive a copy of their adjudication. What can we expect&#160; the MHRA to do given these blatant acts of disregard for medicines advertising?</p>
<p>Well, my guess is nothing. For the real villains here, in my opinion, are the MHRA themselves. In their response to the complaint, Duchy Originals stated that two of the three products, Echina-Relief and Hyper-lift tinctures, were licensed by the MHRA under the Traditional Herbal Medicines Directive. This directive allows license holders to make claims about their herbal remedies if the product has been ‘traditionally’ used. The rules are quite daft. In order to get a license, the applicant has to show that the product has been in use for 30 years in the EU, or 15 years in the EU and 15 years elsewhere. So, the product could have been ‘traditional’ in the same sense that ABBA is ‘traditional’ European music. There is no need to show there is any evidence for the product.</p>
<p>This is quite a shocking state of affairs. The MHRA have a <a href="http://www.mhra.gov.uk/Aboutus/Whoweare/Ourmissionandvalues/index.htm" target="_blank">mission</a> to “safeguard the health of the public by ensuring that medicines and medical devices work, and are acceptably safe”. By taking on the Traditional Herbal Medicines Directive, the MHRA have undermined their reason for being because traditional use is no substitute for evidence when looking at what medicines work and are safe. In this regulatory regime we are subjugating evidence to the beliefs of any group of cranks (or fraudsters) who have stated that a herb can treat their illnesses.</p>
<p>So, could Duchy Originals have defended their claims with good evidence? The best place to look is to see what Cochrane reviews say about these herbs. The Echina-Relief tincture is probably best reviewed in a <a href="http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab000530.html" target="_blank">study</a> entitled “Echinacea for preventing and treating the common cold”. The author’s conclusions are:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Echinacea</i> preparations tested in clinical trials differ greatly. There is some evidence that preparations based on the aerial parts of <i>E. purpurea</i> might be effective for the early treatment of colds in adults but the results are not fully consistent. Beneficial effects of other <i>Echinacea</i> preparations, and <i>Echinacea</i> used for preventative purposes might exist but have not been shown in independently replicated, rigorous RCTs.</p>
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<p>In other words, if there is a positive effect, it will be dependent on the specific preparation and product, and we have no great evidence that even this might be so. As far as I can see, no such evidence exists for the Duchy Originals product. Evidence for effectiveness is pretty slim and unconvincing.</p>
<p>How about the Hyper-lift tincture? The review on “St John&#8217;s wort for major depression” might give us some clues.&#160; The review of evidence is quite positive, but there is a major complication. <a href="http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab000448.html" target="_blank">Cochrane reports</a> that “trials from German-speaking countries reported findings more favourable to hypericum”. Is it plausible that German speakers get a greater benefit, or are we seeing a greater placebo effect in countries where the treatment is more popular? Whatever, we might conclude, Cochrane is cautious &#8211; “St. John&#8217;s wort products available on the market vary to a great extent. The results of this review apply only to the preparations tested in the studies included”. We cannot use these reviews as evidence that Prince Charles’ products work – even though his family is German.</p>
<p>Looking at the ‘non-medical’ tincture – the detox tincture – this is the most ridiculous of them all. It <a href="http://www.duchyoriginals.com/detox_tincture.php" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">claims</a> to be a “a food supplement to help eliminate toxins and aid digestion.”. However, the <a href="http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/index.php/site/project/14/" target="_blank">company</a> is unable to <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/11/prince-charles-detox-tincture" target="_blank">name any toxin</a> that is actually removed by this product and what the evidence for this is. It is pure pseudoscientific bullshit. </p>
<p>This inadequacy of evidence is important. The MHRA give themselves a get out clause for licensing these products that they have not used in these cases. They can <a href="http://www.mhra.gov.uk/Howweregulate/Medicines/Herbalandhomoeopathicmedicines/Herbalmedicines/PlacingaherbalmedicineontheUKmarket/TraditionalHerbalMedicinesRegistrationScheme/Scope/index.htm" target="_blank">refuse a license</a> if the claims are not plausible. Given that the best evidence to date on these products is pretty cautious and specifically excludes products that are not explicitly tested, the plausibility that a company can just magic a product up and expect it to work is very low. It is not plausible that a pharmaceutical company could do this. It is not plausible that Prince Charles could either.</p>
<p>We have a situation where the government is now licensing medicinal products on the flimsiest of evidence. The idea that we can expect a product to work on the basis that someone in Europe in the past few decades have been gullible enough to buy the product is obviously daft. And I would suggest that the MHRA have obviously not been forceful enough on the requirements of their license. They state that the licensee must use very specific wording when making claims – that the product is a “traditional herbal medicine for use on [specific indications] exclusively based upon long standing [sic] use as a traditional remedy”. The stupidity of Duchy Originals is that they did not stick to this wording. The MHRA are supposedly convinced that the public can then interpret the wording as meaning that there is no real evidence for effectiveness. But we know that it is a <a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2008/03/age-of-quackery.html" target="_blank">common quack trick</a> to suggest a treatment has ancient origins in order to sell their product. The MHRA have played right into quack hands.</p>
<p>And so when the MHRA give a license, we then are left with organisations like the impotent ASA to police it. I see little evidence of the MHRA taking a tough stance. I have one complaint against a blatant breach of rules that is now over a year without any action and despite requests for statuses on progress. The MHRA appear unconcerned about quackery claims. This also has to be looked at in the knowledge that we know that Prince Charles has <a href="http://dcscience.net/?p=89">written lots of letters </a>to the MHRA and meetings have been held at Clarence house before these new directives came in. We are not allowed to know the contents of those letters. </p>
<p>The importance of this appears to need to be explicitly stated. We currently have a significant health risk in the form of swine flu. This risk may well not materialise quickly. Flu tends to strike in the winter months. The coming months may well see pockets of infection establishing across the world. Come the winter, we may then see this strain striking out in earnest, maybe even with some more deadly mutations. When our government explicitly licenses companies to make claims that their quack remedies can prevent or treat flu without evidence, they undermine their ability to issue meaningful, evidence-based and life-saving advice. </p>
<p>The MHRA, in taking on this role of licenser and legitimiser of quackery, undermines its ability to be an authority in this most important area. </p>
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<p>Coverage</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2da15fb0-39cb-11de-b82d-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check=1" target="_blank">Marketing of Prince’s remedies banned</a>&#160; &#8211; FT</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8035072.stm" target="_blank">Prince firm&#8217;s advert &#8216;misleading&#8217;</a> – BBC</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/5279160/Prince-of-Waless-Duchy-Originals-herbal-remedy-claims-were-misleading.html" target="_blank">Prince of Wales&#8217;s Duchy Originals herbal remedy claims were &#8216;misleading&#8217;</a> &#8211; Telegraph</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[The newspapers today were delighting in reporting that a new cold treatment was being made available to us in Britian. Kaloba is an extract of the geranium Pelargonium sidoides, and has been &#8220;used by Zulus for hundreds of years&#8221;.
The Telegraph tells us that &#8220;extracts are particularly good at reducing the amount of phlegm.&#8221; Remarkably, the [...]

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/uploaded_images/kaloba-783045.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/uploaded_images/kaloba-783037.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a>The newspapers today were delighting in reporting that a new cold treatment was being made available to us in Britian. Kaloba is an extract of the geranium <span style="font-style: italic;">Pelargonium sidoides</span>, and has been &#8220;used by Zulus for hundreds of years&#8221;.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3107179/Zulu-cold-treatment-Kaloba-available-in-UK.html">Telegraph </a>tells us that &#8220;extracts are particularly good at reducing the amount of phlegm.&#8221; Remarkably, the paper tells us that,<br />
<blockquote>Research by the Cochrane Review showed it to be &#8220;effective in resolving all symptoms including headaches and nasal discharge in adults when taken for an extended time period.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Daily Mail <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1064519/Our-new-cold-remedy-A-secret-herbal-medicine-used-African-tribes-centuries.html">tells </a>us that,</p>
<blockquote><p> A herbal medicine used by African tribes to counter colds and flu has been given the go-ahead for use in Britain.</p>
<p>For hundreds of years, Zulus have taken extracts from the geranium plant to stop coughs and sneezes.</p>
<p>They say it is particularly effective at cutting phlegm.</p>
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<p>To the Daily Mail&#8217;s credit they do point out that licensing the pills in the UK does not require the manufacturers to produce evidence of efficacy. They say,<br />
<blockquote>However, because it is a herbal remedy the manufacturers, who claim it can activate the body&#8217;s anti-viral defences, do not have to prove it is effective.</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed, the MHRA have issued their own assessment and say that,<br />
<blockquote> This registration is based exclusively upon the longstanding use of the extract from the roots of Pelargonium sidoides as a traditional herbal medicine and not upon data generated from clinical trials. There is no requirement under the Traditional Herbal Registration scheme to prove scientifically that the product works.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are a number of odd things here that are worth noting. Firstly, the MHRA does not look at the use of this stuff within Zulu tribes to assess whether there has been sufficient &#8216;traditional use&#8217;  to determine whether it should be granted a license. They actually looked at evidence of usage within the EU &#8211; not amongst Zulus, but principally amongst Germans where this herbal remedy has been on sale for some time.</p>
<p>The second is whether there is any evidence at all for the effectiveness of Kalabo. The Telegraph were remarkably selective in quoting the Cochrane review about this plant. Far from being &#8220;effective in resolving all symptoms&#8221; as reported, the <a href="http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab006323.html">Cochrane review</a> actually concluded that &#8220;There is limited evidence for the effectiveness of <i>P. sidoides</i> in the treatment of ARIs. (acute respiratory tract infections)&#8221;. From the trials reviewed, there was a lot of heterogeneity of outcomes (read &#8216;confusion&#8217;) and that the &#8217;significant&#8217; results came from an unpublished trial. So, it <span style="font-style: italic;">may</span> be effective. But the evidence is too confusing to draw firm conclusions.</p>
<p>But the manufacturers Schwabe Pharmaceuticals and their sales outlet Boots will undoubtedly be welcoming the MHRA&#8217;s decision to let this stuff loose on us and the misleading and (mainly) uncritical reporting by the nations finest newspapers are undoubtedly providing a good sales launch.</p>


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