Curzon Cinema Soho Hosting Fraudulent Doctor and dishonest VAXXED film.

Just another example of an uneducated comment. I am so glad Andrew Wakefield and his supporters have not given up! He is so brave despite the organized and deliberate sabotage of his career. This film exposes the power and greed of those profiting from these vaccines. As well as the lack of accountability for the damage they have caused. This is a subject I have been researching and following for three decades now. Don’t be lazy and line up like sheep, read the legal papers you will be signing for vaccines. Do your own research.

As of mother of autism i know in my heart that my sons speech and behavior changed after vaccines. I believe that his immune system was compromised due to sevaral antibiotics and the shots triggered eveything. We are putting the disease in their bodies and their little buddies can’t fight it. We need more research! Also when i Google symptom that my son has there are article written by the suddenly discredited doctor. There is definitely a connection and they definitely want to shut dr wakefield up. They definitely did a good job…. do you homework and see for yourself. Talk to autism mothers. There is no coincidence

I have done my research, I find Andy Lewis blindfolded by the collective opinion of vested interests, unable to rationalise and guilty of pretending to be scientific. Hiding behind soft targets and claiming to be a higher morel. One side makes you smaller, the other makes you tall. The film isnt about Andrew Wakefield, it is about the fraudulent goings on at the centres for disease control, an apt name, the place where fake pandemics are generated using the media and ‘mandatory medicines’ are then forced on the public, at their expense. No doctor in the UK is following the Asfar ruling on informed consent with regard to so called ‘routine childhood vaccines and weekly hyjacks at schools all over the country where mass vaccine criminal fraud is taking place need to be prosecuted for.

Mary johns whatever nonsense you may claim to believe is of no relevance. Autism is a condition that develops in pregnancy, there is zero evidence that it is in any way caused by antibiotics or vaccines, all of which have been tested in clinical trials and found to be safe and efficacious.
I think the best thing for you would be to educate yourself on the subject(several universities run short courses on vaccinology), you may then be able to avoid embarrassing yourself in future.

Nicola – the film is propaganda. It is not a documentary that allows people to make up their own mind because it withholds the information that is counter to its message. It relies on emotional appeals and conspiracy. Parents who are not appraised of the full facts may make a misinformed decision and put their children at risk. The facts are well known and are not controversial among medical experts, and as such, the film is thoroughly irresponsible.

The film exists to try to exonerate Wakefield. He was found to have several serious conflicts of interests in his work, he acted unethically in his engagements with children and was found to have fraudulently misrepresented the data in his paper on MMR. This is not in dispute. That a colleague of Wakefield’s was reinstated has no bearing on the outcome that Wakefield suffered. In Walker-Smith’s case, it was found that the GMC had failed to present their case appropriately. It was more of a technical finding than anything else.

MMR has been thoroughly investigated by many independent investigators all over the world and no good evidence exists to associate MMR with autism. It is a discredited hypothesis. You say that the damage is caused by injecting “mercury and aluminium into the blood stream is immense”. No good set of evidence exists for this claim and, in any case, MMR does not contain either ingredient. To persist in making these claim is dishonest and reckless.

“Only today has yet another study in Italy identified problems with the content of vaccinations which are not disclosed and cause neurological damage. ”
Do you mean this one ?
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2017/02/02/antivaccinationists-try-to-show-vaccines-are-dirty-but-really-show-that-they-are-amazingly-free-from-contamination/

Have a little more of a think yourself. “Correlation does not mean causation”. We stop right there at that point.

If you think Andy is going to try an engage and admit modern medicine is failing asthmatics and killing them with medical science, you might have to burn a goat. The last thing Andy Pandy wants is a discussion about medical failure.

The problem with this film is that it’s not a documentary. It’s propaganda. That’s why it was pulled and has so much hatred towards it.

“I want to know more” – That’s the biggest problem with this film.

It doesn’t allow you to know more. It’s full of claims and ‘facts’ that have been disproved and discredited by doctors and investigators all over the world. However, the film leaves this information out.

‘so open scrutiny and continual checking makes for a safe, transparent society’ – This goes on from above. The film does not give open scrutiny of the comments and claims made. It actively leaves out ALL of the reports which disprove his claims.

Polar bear, the only think successful about vaccines is the business model, doctors notifications are not science, they are the collective opinion of vested interests. There is no safe vaccine, that is a fallacy meme trotted out by the vaccine believer, and here you will find many with their heads stuck up the rear of this banana

It was a public meeting advertised on quack notice boards. It was designed to be a UK Premier with the ‘stars’ showing up. It was using the cinema’s West End prestige to do this.

Your beliefs come rather second to the evidence and science here. Indeed, allergic reactions do occur but they are rarely serious.

You also do not get Wakefield’s documented conflicts of interests in what he did. He was not a disinterested researcher here but stood to gain from the results he put forward. Against the evidence he recommended single vaccines – and he had a patent in an alternative vaccine.

Vaxxed was advertised on facebook. In the US one child is diagnosed autistic every 7 minutes every year. There are thousands of kids who went down after their MMR, watching the films of them fine walking and eye contacting the week before their MMR and also watching kids fitting after the MMR then going downhill is a reality Andy

And you obviously did not fully comprehend Andy’s reply. Hundreds of millions of vaccines means a massively increased risk of coincidence. Conversely are you able to explain why the vast majority of hundreds of millions of children had no reaction and does this justify abandoning vaccination just because of the highly spurious concurrent reactions of a few?

Course he hasn’t seen it, Andy Lewis is a puppet in a chain, now the Voldemort of medicine is asking the Orcs to swing into action and blackmail people into bowing down to the dark lord.

@richardevans – You have to consider the position that parents with autism are in.

They want someone or something to blame for their children’s autism. Because of this, they will inherently look for links that quite simply are not there.

The whole vaccine things gives them something to blame it on. It’s an easy way for them to deal with the situation they’re in.

You also have to remember, that in Wakefields original claims, he stated the children in his research had inflammatory bowel disease. However, the data actually shows this was not true.

Funny how that is left out of the film? – You would think, as part of his work, he would want to explain how what he said, doesn’t correlate to the original data.

I completely agree with you Richard. Any adverse reaction deserves nothing less than appropriate, considerate and unbiased investigation. However, this has been undertaken and no correlation other than coincidence has been found, although I suspect you will dispute that 🙂 Please do not think though, that science is ‘Speak to the hand ‘cos the face ain’t listening’. The whole point of science is to be mutable to the best available evidence. So far this suggests that there is no reaction to vaccination and if, due to the rich tapestry of life, there are a few outliers, this is not significant enough to negate the undeniable benefit of vaccination to the hundreds of millions. I do sometimes think all of us in this western world live comfortable cosseted lives, worrying about reactions to vaccinations when many in the third world would be happy just to see most of their children survive to teenage years. I hope I do not sound condescending Richard but if you want to look back at an age before vaccination, then search for Victorian post mortem photography. It is an interesting but disturbing gallery and the vast majority of photographs are of small children. As a father of two small (vaccinated with MMR and perfectly healthy) boys, I find it very upsetting. Keep the Mansize Kleenex handy as you look at these awful images of loss. Regards, Kevin.

I think you mean ‘too many’, still I’d be amused to hear them. It’s fine not to vaccinate your children if you only risk their health but unfortunately you don’t, you put other children at risk as well. Sadly vaccines are not quite100% effective, if I found they hadn’t worked for my children and that they subsequently caught disease from an unvaccinated child, I would be knocking on doors. 50% of children in the 19th century did not make it to the age of 5. Yes, this did have a lot to do with living conditions and nutrition but you only have to look at death records to see how completely preventable childhood infectious diseases were responsible for a significant percentage of mortality and only some of this would have been prevented by bettering the social situation, the children of rich families often fared no better than the poor. The same re the third world, living conditions can only do so much and disease survival has everything to do with the provision of vaccines. The massive investigation into MMR was not peer review. I am not a fan of authorities such as the GMC as they do look a bit like old boy networks but having read the details of Wakefield’s methodology in his MMR research it is obvious he was grievously in error. Incidentally, did you know George Bernard Shaw was a notorious anti vaxxer? It’s true, he also thought sunlight killed bacteria and that all our sewage should have been pumped into our reservoirs! Hilarious.

I have seen the film and it is deeply misleading. It is essentially a confidence trick pulled on those without the background knowledge to understand why they are being misled.

Franklin, the rate of infectious diseases (we are not talking about mortality alone), has not fallen at the same rate and why ‘infectious’? Are you actually suggesting they are not infectious? Now that really would be hilarious. Figures from the Registrar General regarding Polio cases in the UK, figures which are often quoted by the anti vaccine brigade, show a steady increase of cases throughout the first half of the twentieth century with an especially big rise in the 1950’s. The rates were not dropping as you claim before the vaccine was introduced, they were in fact rising. The vaccine began in 1956 but the rate of Polio went up in 1957 and this figure is often proudly crowed over by the anti vaxxers, however there is obviously going to be a delay between delivery of a vaccine and its effect. In 1958 the rate of Polio dropped by around 50% and by 1963 there were only 39 reported cases compared to around 3200 in 1957. Of course you will have some alternative explanation for this, however Occam’s razor would suggest we accept the bleeding obvious which is that the vaccine caused the huge reduction in Polio; please don’t tell me lifestyle factors and education changed that much between 1957 and 1963 because they didn’t. Similarly with Smallpox, you and others of your ilk will say this disease is caused by poor nutrition, dirty water and war and that the worry of disease is simply an ‘atopic nightmare’! By the way, kill the darlings dearie. How is it therefore that this virus has been eradicated even from war torn countries with poor food and water supplies. Was it a sudden change in lifestyle factors or the global immunization project? As regards the Asfar ruling, our GP told us quite clearly the potential problems of vaccination so your statement that every GP is criminally negligent doesn’t really stand up does it? The broader the statement the narrower the mind! There are lots of flavours of crazy out there Franklin but to claim all vaccines are ineffectual is particularly dangerous and unpleasant to the palate.

Franklin – you are clearly not scientifically trained or you would dismiss that polio/DDT thing within a few seconds. A few spurious correlation graphs do not prove a causal link.

Family’s (possessive), families (plural). Dunning-Kruger.

correlation does not equal causation unless you are a septic

Seriously? You support your argument with a long since debunked article which was published thirty years ago?

Wakefield’s fraud extended beyond the paper. The charges against him were not the same as against others. The guilt or not of others has no bearing on his own guilt.

I think you need to realise that a conspiracy is talking about something, when it is happening it is a fact, I love kicking a septic shite like you, it is a kind of therapy and it’s free